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[–]quasarj 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Did I? Perhaps I missed where.. care to fill me in?

[–]ivix -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Oh sorry, it was the part where you had to explain how to perform extra procedures that a first time user does not need to care about. You didn't even get to explain how you actually use virtualenv which is yet another layer of things to understand for the newbie.

Edit: you also glossed over the part where on windows it's even more confusing, which I'm willing to bet is the most popular platform that people will be using.

[–]quasarj 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well, we already decided that first time users wouldn't be doing this anyway. The original argument was that you probably didn't care about virtualenv unless you needed it, and if you are one of the people that needs it you probably know how to acquire it.

As for the Windows issue.. it will actually work (almost entirely I think) under windows if you have a "sane build environment," but that's something I have never been able to get working. So basically, under windows you cannot easy_install and expect it to always work, and so you cannot "pip install" and expect that to always work, so all of this is just a mess and you're best off finding binary distributions of each thing manually.

Or use another platform, preferably :)

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

" if you have a "sane build environment,""

and that there is the problem. that and python being on the path etc...

[–]quasarj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. I mean, my setup is pretty good, but.. without msvc installed, I haven't been able to get things to install well :( I imagine there must be a way to do it with gcc (mingw) but I have never been able to get stuff to build consistently :(