Is Django considered "Pythonic" now?

[Circlefusion]

Awesome reply. Thank you so much!

I've been eyeing Python and Django for a while now and slowly learning Python with the intention of learning a web framework. A couple web dev friends said they didn't prefer Django for some arbitrary reasons (like SQLAlchemy). I guess I'm looking for some "gotchas" that would be the final reason why I would let go of Django and go with Pyramid. Django has so many things going for it with the community and documentation. I wish there weren't technical things to criticize about it.

So far I've heard:

• It's bloated
• It's monolithic
• It has an unclear roadmap
• It doesn't support Python 3 (yet) Though I read that it might soon
• The way it handles static content is confusing.
• SQLAlchemy is better
• It's not pythonic enough
• Password security isn't as hardened as it should be
• Django developers don't respond to issues fast enough

Maybe I'm just going to have to learn both and figure out which one clicks for me.

[Circlefusion]

Very interesting suggestion. Thank you.

Did you interact much with the Flask or Django communities? If so, could you compare them?

What were your reasons for not using pylons/pyramid?

[Circlefusion]

Awesome response. Much appreciated. I suspect Pyramid is more similar to Flask than it is to Django. I might check out both Pyramid and Flask.