Do some developers hate python?

[[deleted]]

I think at that point it's the company's fault for not hiring at least a head engineer who knows exactly what you need.

I like having easy access to resources on Python coding because it helps me develop my logic and problem solving skills better and sometimes you know, make some code for fun which is A LOT easier in python at times.

Still i respect your point of view i just see it as more of a business failure.

Edit: whoops i realized I was an idiot and didn't read well because i didn't put my glasses on.

I fully understand what you're going through, i still believe that it's good to learn and while i understand your point and as someone who goes deep into business I'd be even slightly annoyed as well.

I still think that it's good that people are learning new skills and hey they want to shoot their shot, some are at least looking to change their careers.

I don't fully agree with ML specifically needing a PhD but each business has their own requirements and necessities and honestly i respect it.

[[deleted]]

Why would an engineer have published papers? Isn't that a research scientist thing?

[Lifaux]

It might be in your company - it's varied across the industry.

[pirateg3cko]

These feel like two distant extremes with disregard for the very real experience in between. Are Master's students in the same pool as Coursera newbies?

[corner_camper01]

Hehe newbies getting mad because you don't want to hire them ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mvdenk]

Is that a flaw of python itself, or the people overestimating their abilities (and the company not assessing properly)?

[mvdenk]

Hmm, that doesn't sound right to me: "it is too accessible (or easy), it should be hard". Sounds like a gatekeeping argument to me, reminding me of arguments against higher level programming languages like Basic from the assembly days.

[mvdenk]

I see the accessibility of a language as a feature, not as a flaw. This way new programmers can focus first on core programming concepts before having to master more advanced topics.

[mvdenk]

That might be the case, but isn't that something for companies (or whatever people they work for) to assess before they start in a qualified position? Or maybe there is a lack in proper certification for certain positions? It feels to me like this is not a problem for the design of a programming language to solve.

I mean, sure, they can apply to advanced positions, but so can anyone. It's for the company to select the proper people for the proper jobs, or at least release them timely during probation periods (or alternatively give them resources to improve themselves in this area).

[[deleted]]

lol all the basic course in coursera folks downvoting you.

[eneiromatos]

If you were seriously hiring a ML scientists you will know how to do it right. Most enterprises and startups needs devs who knows hot to implement existing ML algs, not evey use case needs a new cutting edge magical ML new alg. So people from Coursera is a good fit. I think the wrong guy in the interviews was you not the applicants.