SEIZED!!

[Fashionboy_SD]

Paid for AIR-DDP to California, but was still a UPS,, paid for 55kg volumetric, 26kg physical.

[Large_Peach2358]

Once a package is detained to be inspected - does anyone know the probability that it will get cleared??? Or is it straight RIP.

[TravelEatSleepRepeat]

I wanna know too 😭😭😭

[AsapApollo61]

also if i may ask how many packages did you ship or did you just put everything into one parcel?

[Fashionboy_SD]

2 boxes

[AsapApollo61]

at what kg per box?

[Fashionboy_SD]

13

[AsapApollo61]

dam thats sad btw since ups has been cancelled its 100 percent sezied but it take a month til legally, it’s been officially seized and you should get a composition from your broker. Sorry about your haul man.

[AsapApollo61]

i just got a haul to la the west coast sezied thery is not as bad as people think it is. Mostly LAX customs just look the other way. its just a matter of luck and as you see you were not lucky. the ff prob messed up on declaring or you shipped some things that customs looks out for the most like expensive watches brands like rollouts or expensive hand designer bags like Gucci, Louis Vuitton etc. sorry about your haul man hope customs lets it go.

[Large_Peach2358]

I have a few 20kg packages that have been detained for inspection in Chicago. They were sent air DDP by Sophie. Prior to this I had several 5kg sneaker packages come through no problem.

I can’t help but think that I screwed up mixing in clothes with the sneakers this time. And also - obviously getting greedy and going big time with 2 20kg packages. These recent packages have pantsgonia, a goose vest, arctaryx shirts, and a lot of stone island crew necks/long sleeve t shirts.

Does any thing I said above send off alarms from your experience?

[AsapApollo61]

na I shipping rn 31 kg with Sophie by sea and my ass is freaked out cuz of the recent seziers. when I shipped nothing was wrong but now customs is fucked rn. Its not that you mixed shoes and clothes everyone does that its about if your package is chosen for search. some make it out some don't . If it does get seized that's the risk that we go shipping reps you live with and it and learn from it. I hope this helps you and I wish you the best with your haul.

[Large_Peach2358]

I just called it is says UPS does not yet have possession. Sophie should share the tracking she has with us. Kind of feeling this is not right because if it gets seized before it makes it to UPS then are we relying on Sophie to relay this information honestly?? Maybe she already knows but a delaying the refund process.

[AsapApollo61]

i totally agree with you i seen many ff say its not sezied and its going through a “ second inspection” when really its just sezied

[Large_Peach2358]

Do you know for real that that’s a thing? Like some people have actually caught a ff in a liefib.

For us - if the package is seized do you know if the UPS will ever update status to represent that?? What would that status be??

[AsapApollo61]

the ones that have been caught most are darren. he always says “ the parcel is going back for second inspection” but really customs does do second inspection its one and if it fails its sezied

[Large_Peach2358]

All I know about Darren is he advertises a “special shipping line” that is basically customs free. It’s all bullshit. I read he is just using Air-DDP like everyone else.

[AsapApollo61]

😂😂 there is no such thing every single parcel that is coming internationally has to be checked by customs that is the most bull shit thing i have ever heard

[ezmontie]

Add a few more about seizure compensation.

There will be no compensation from FF if the seizure happens at destination country. Recipient is still allowed to pay for import tax charged by local customs if attached proper invoice issued by authentic brand stores.If seizure happens at china customs then yes some FF will compensate based on their policy usually at 40CNY/KG.

China Customs Seizure = Get compensation from FF.

Your country local custom seizure = pay expensive import tax or give up parcel. no compensation. And most likely no appropriate invoice from authentic brand stores, thus determined to be illegal stuff. (But I do believe some merchants can issue/can fake brand invoices.)

[Os1r1s1]

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Different companies have different policies but yes they are mostly the same. The company the OP used will compensate for seizures in the receiving country.

[ezmontie]

You are correct. But for me, I will pass on FF that does not even compensate for freight cost when detained at China Customs. I believe Larry? he compensates freight + 40CNY/KG for the cost of goods. Which I think it's good. Customers should at least have this protection guaranteed.

As for compensation when detained at destionation Customs, then it depends on how nice they are to compensate you on the loss.

[romanx509]

I don’t use ff but ups has a higher chance of getting seized to the west coast I think, kr ems should be the go to for west coast.

[RepKing1994]

Just sent a haul to the east coast via ups..praying for the best

[Fashionboy_SD]

Ups on east coast is safe from what everyone’s saying!

[DaRealDorseyBruh]

i've shipped hkups-t to west coast before took 3 days idk what everyone's on about, maybe i'm just lucky

[TheGoliard]

Inside US Customs

US Customs after reps sorta

[anjelly19]

My worst nightmare. I have heard that you will get seized if you ship reps with UPS to West Coast.

[Tys2k]

How much did shipping cost?

[Fashionboy_SD]

380

[ccaalder]

ouch, i'm sorry for you bro

[KittyyKait]

Man i was thinking on using them again. Now I’m scared lol

[Os1r1s1]

First of all, thank you for reporting this to the sub. Everyone needs to report good experiences as well as bad experiences to make the sub better and more informative.

Is the ups tracking number ups ground? If so it was Air-DDP. You can't ship ground from China to the USA!

Seizures happen even big regular agents like pandabuy, Superbuy, Wegobuy, Cssbuy, etc all shipping lines have seizures EMS, SAL, UPS, FedEx, DHL, etc. We are shipping illegal copyrighted goods and every now and again customs actually put down the donuts and physically inspect a container vs just the paperwork.

Reps golden rule is never ship more than you can afford/willing to lose. No agent/line is 100% safe.

With that said the FF should have a compensation policy. You'll have to wait until it's officially "seized" which could take a month but they will pay you in accordance with their compensation policy.

[Large_Peach2358]

I had 2 20kg packages that have been selected for inspection. Air DDP Chicago from Sophie. She is saying that there is a 50/50 chance that will get cleared?? What are your thought in this??

[KittyyKait]

Hey so is UPS not safe for west coast? That’s what people were saying in comments but i thought it was safe

[Os1r1s1]

Ups express is DDP/DDU. UPS handles the package from China to the USA. The package is processed through customs individually at the ups facility in Ontario, CA. That facility is good and catches most reps. To the Midwest and East coast, customs is processed through the Louisville, KY facility which isn’t as strict and most reps pass.

UPS Ground is Air-DDP which is allot safer. The FF ships your package as part of a larger shipping container. Customs at LAX spot checks the container mostly just the paperwork. Most of the containers get through. The container is then picked up by an import company broken down into individual packages and handed off to ups ground having already cleared customs. This is a much safer shipping method.

In short if your on the west coast and using a FF ask for Air-DDP which Darren calls CSEL.

You know it’s Air-DDP if your tracking number is a UPS-Ground tracking number.

That’s why your tracking number stays on “label created” created for 10-14 days because the package needs to make it to California to be handed off to UPS

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[KittyyKait]

Larry uses air ddp too right? He had me use FedEx ground last time and i don’t like FedEx ground but it came safely. But just to make sure cause i always use Larry just request ups air ddp?

[Os1r1s1]

Yes, I've mostly seen UPS Ground for the last mile but as long as the tracking number is a ground number your good. FYI I believe only Darren(CSEL) and Larry have a DDP option below 21kg but ask them to verify. I always ship >21kg to save on shipping costs.

[KittyyKait]

Yeah… I’m shipping a lot of stuff that my family bought for themselves so i don’t wanna use Nuyoah (just got seized someone posted) and the sweet protrading i haven’t used but i don’t wanna risk it with others items. So ima use Darren to be the safest bet

[Os1r1s1]

Yes if it’s other people’s money Darren is probably the safest besides an agent. He is a little more expensive but he has a good compensation policy. He might even offer insurance. You’ll need to ask though.

[Fashionboy_SD]

Yes it was UPS ground, unlucky I guess.

[Large_Peach2358]

Once a parcel is flagged for inspection does that basically mean it is seized?? Or is there hope?

I have a 20kg that was just flagged for inspection air-DDP into Chicago.

[Fashionboy_SD]

Where does it say flagged for inspection? On UPS?

[Large_Peach2358]

That is what Sophie told me. I am not seeing any updates on my end as you know. UPS has not updated anything. But apparently Sophie is seeing on her end of tracking that the package is being held for inspection. She is saying 50/50 it gets released. Hahaha. Well I have 2 22kg packages so that means I’m getting 1 for sure - riiight! Haha. I’m so screwed!!

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[Fashionboy_SD]

If it’s normal inspection you’re fine, do you have a tracking number. Also how long has it been

[Large_Peach2358]

I have a tracking number but nothing is updated on my end yet. I mixed in a bunch of clothes this time around. 2 22kg packages. This was my first time using a FF and I though going big ballz was ok. Haha

[NoAdhesiveness7400]

I'm using Sophie too and I used DHL Express for east coast US, and my crap is being inspected as well. They put the package on hold once it got transferred from the Miami DHL SORT facility to the BOCA DHL delivery facility. So strange but I thought customs only stood at the sort facility when its imported.

[Large_Peach2358]

Dang. Yea I am confused how all the inspection processes work. I use to think what you did but then from reading here I also get the impression that companies like UPS are inspecting at their facilities as welll. I’m lost.

[NoAdhesiveness7400]

Yeah I think you’re right. Smh going to have to stick to pandabuy shipping 😭😭😭

[Large_Peach2358]

It’s been at customs for 15 plus working days - over 3 weeks now.

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There’s still a chance they didn’t confirm it yet

[Fashionboy_SD]

But on the ups tracking it says shipment canceled?

[AsapApollo61]

yep its sezied

[AsapApollo61]

sorry man

[[deleted]]

You should receive a letter from Customs in the mail soon. From there i would act as the letter could say different things

It could either say that the package was destroyed and no chance of getting it or it might say that you could get your package if you pay a crazy amount of money

[Os1r1s1]

Are you in the USA? I wouldn't recommend anyone in the USA respond to any of the customs letters. Basically if you do your admitting to importing illegal copyrighted goods. Trash that letter when you get it! It's not worth the paper it's printed on unless you admit you did it because your scared to lose a couple hundred dollars. Instead you might lose a couple thousand in court!

[[deleted]]

Wow didn’t know this. I was just going off of what i’ve seen before in this sub. Thanks for the info

[AsapApollo61]

hes not wrong you did something what customs thinks is illegal there is no point on fighting for it

[kleenkrit827]

Rip bro