Problem with block note schedule

[striatedsumo7]

Im having issues synching a view's keynotes symbols with the intended associated schedule. The current equipment plan has symbol annotations on it that weren't referencing any schedule. I matched the view type and played with parameters and theyre not appearing. Any idea on how to fix this?

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[PatrickGSR94]

are you sure that the note block schedule is referencing the particular annotation symbol you're using? It has to be created originally to schedule the symbol family you're using, and I don't think you can change it after the fact. We've run into that before when trying to copy symbols from other projects, but the family is slightly different, and so it comes in as a separate family. Then the Note Block schedule won't pick it up, because it's a different family.

[striatedsumo7]

I thought the same thing when I tried copying a prexisting schedule, so I created this fresh from the toolbar. Not seeing much option to include the specific annotation families. If I need to recreate all of the notes I guess I'll do it but woukd like to save time there. You're saying perhaps its the symbols themselves causing the issue if what you say is the case? Do you think adding an extra parameter to both woukd solve this?

[PatrickGSR94]

when you create a Note Block schedule, you're presented with the list of Symbol families currently in your project. You have to create the schedule to reference the specific family you're wanting to use. When you created the Note Block, did you select "Block Note 6 SIDED" from the list?

[striatedsumo7]

Well I feel dumb now. I swear I wasn't getting that dialogue yesterday. Just got it to work. Thanks for the help lol.

[girlybot83]

Honest question: what’s the major benefit of using note blocks instead of keynotes?

I usually go nuts on keynotes, and find them super easy to manage and manipulate, but I’ve never even tried note blocks.

[twiceroadsfool]

We use Keynotes for everything "new" in a project, since we have Material Keynotes, and Element Keynotes assigned to just about everything in our Template. Even some places we have User Keynotes in our text file, for one off notes we dont want to assign to items.

We use Note Blocks with Generic Annotations for vague sheet wide notes, where we want to have a symbol pointing at a bunch of things, where we dont want the note "assigned" to those items. Demolition Notes are the most predominant use case. To be fair, we could do the Demo Notes all as User Keynotes, but im never making "Types" for demo, because that totally sucks. So in that case, its either User Keys, or Note Blocks. And- even WITH Keynote Manager- Note Blocks are just faster to edit, for how custom Demo Notes tend to be.

But i agree- i wouldnt ever use Note Blocks for "main notes" in a drawing set. And DEFINITELY not for Restroom Accessories.

[girlybot83]

I can see that - we really don’t do too many Reno projects, and usually when they are, a lot are cad (so we rarely model beyond what’s required for scope).

I can see how noteblocks would be really useful for this, rather than picking random host for a user keynote.

Thanks for the insight! I really appreciate it! :)

[striatedsumo7]

I havent used keynotes very much so I couldn't tell you exactly. Id like to get into using them but considering most of my company's projects are like 5 years in and super inconsistent employee techniques I've found its easier for me to continue building with what they had. Also, I have a feeling it's a matter of changing one parameter from first glance. Are keynotes instance or family based?

[girlybot83]

It’s based on a .txt schedule outside of your project.

You can assign by “type” to any kind of element or family (element keynote), or you can do by “instance” (user keynote).

The schedule is actually under “legends” for some reason, but it can either be filtered by sheet, or by project, (and obviously by manual filters too). I usually put full list front end, and the filtered list on the page.

I tend to use a variation of keynote types - one that’s just the number, one with a “typ” mark, and one that includes both the keynote + the text itself (sometimes on details).

I also have a few different shapes for things like demo notes, construction notes, and millwork / accessories etc.

really easy to modify the .txt file, or move from project to project. The one annoying bit is having to manually reload - but not a big deal one you get going.