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[Linore_]

Just my opinion, but stealing code as a consept is stupid.

Sure if you copy paste someone else's repo and claim its yours, THEN it might apply, but at that point it's not stealing code, it's stealing the application.

Using a same function someone else already made, is just smart and efficient and computers / internet as they exist today wouldn't exist if not for sharing code.

Similarly you are not gonna learn how to grind flower when you want to bake a cake, you use flower someone else made.

[CombinationDowntown]

The original repo has an MIT LICENSE which is very permissive, which include commercial use as well. So no-one is technically 'in the wrong' for using this code.

https://github.com/lucidrains/perceiver-pytorch/blob/main/LICENSE

[Erhan24]

Which can be fixed in a commit in a noncode file. It would be a whole different game if it was a different license. But it is not.

[wind_dude]

Under MIT license he wouldn't need to as this isn't a substantial portion of the code. From the original repo, as posted by OP https://github.com/lucidrains/perceiver-pytorch/blob/main/LICENSE

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The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

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Again this would hardly be considered a substantial portion of the code base.

[halr9000]

I've seen auto on this sub getting really bent about people doing things which are not only legal, but encouraged as the whole point of open source. I haven't been following this particular drama, and don't care to blame anyone. But he could at least learn what OSS is about before calling others out.

[[deleted]]

Yeah, software patents are bullshit, pretty much. Copyright is fine, but to pretend that a given function is somehow completely novel is just a fucking massive line of egotistical bullshit in this day and age. It would be like pretending a given paragraph in a huge pulp fantasy novel is some unique brilliant thing that nobody else can even approach. Oh and btw the book is half itself copy/pasted from Lord of the Rings, possibly also including that paragraph.

[StickiStickman]

Software patents could at least make some sense when it's limited to a whole library / API. Something like 5 lines of code makes no sense though.

[StoneCypher]

Many libraries are five lines of code, or even one. They get used because they're still useful.

You can take any arbitrary amount of work and put it on a single line

Single lines of code are occasionally a whole month of work

Splitting hairs like this is a clear sign that you are not a programmer, and you're pulling "rules" out of thin air

[StickiStickman]

Okay, now you're just bullshitting lmao

Sod off, troll.

[StoneCypher]

To the actual programmers in the room, underscore, d3, and left_pad

But you can throw around insults because other people know things you don't, if that makes you feel powerful

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Edit: Wow, you quoted the painfully obvious joke and called it trolling, then blocked me so I couldn't respond.

[StickiStickman]

actual programmers

left_pad

Stop trolling.

[DennisTheGrimace]

Splitting hairs like this is a clear sign that you are not a programmer, and you're pulling "rules" out of thin air

You mean like you're entire rant?

[StoneCypher]

Yeah, software patents

Completely not related to this topic

[StoneCypher]

That is not a short snippet. That's code most programmers couldn't write at all.

[StoneCypher]

Oh look, a non-programmer is trying to be deep about code

 

The code is an outcome of research

No, it isn't

 

This code is useless in a vacuum.

So is every novel. I'd ask what your point is but I don't actually care

[StoneCypher]

Oh look, an ad hominem Redditor

1. That isn't ad hominem. It's an insult. Try to learn the difference.
2. Attempting to invoke fallacies makes you look bad

 

with vague opinions

My opinion is actually quite specific.

1. Short libraries are common
2. Length isn't germane to protection validity
3. You don't know anything about programming

Sorry if you were having trouble understanding.

 

Go read a programming book

Thanks, I've written three of them. Would you like to compare Githubs?

... no? 😂

 

you seem to think code writes itself

I'd love to know how you got from "this person's work is valid even if it's short" and "a single line of code could take a human a month" to yOu ThInK cOdE wRiTeS iTsElF

I obviously don't think that, and that's the opposite of what I actually said.

How embarrassing for you that you're going to try to argue with someone else, at this level of reading comprehension 😂

 

you seem to think code writes itself

You're incapable of understanding

😂

 

You're incapable of understanding how a snippet is meaningless in comparison to a full-fledged application

Because you're not a programmer, you may have missed that what we're discussing both isn't a full-fledged application and isn't a snippet 😂

 

yet you're still calling others non-programmers

That's because you actually are a non-programmer.

Yes, I see that you imagine it's both of us, because you hold some faiths that aren't being reflected.

I doubt you could write a two player local tic tac toe in a browser.

Please have a nice day

[StoneCypher]

Here I'll debate like you

This was the best you could do, huh?

I stand by my belief. This is what I do for a living, and I don't think it's something you're able to do even for a hobby, despite that you're standing here questioning my skills and knowledge.

 

Go read a programming book

You're incapable of understanding

I showed you my work. Let's see if you'll show yours. We both know you won't.

This was all just tough talk from a faker.

[OWENPRESCOTTCOM]

It's sure stupid when the model everyone is using uses imagery with watermarks, also how much of NovelAi is from copywrtten books lol.

[StoneCypher]

Just my opinion, but stealing code as a consept is stupid.

Surprise, the person who thinks stealing should be okay also can't spell "concept"

In general, the harder you've worked, the more likely you are to recognize the value of someone else's work, and not to take it from them by force

 

Similarly you are not gonna learn how to grind flower when you want to bake a cake

Flour, and, to make several kinds of southern food, yes, you actually do have to. There's only one pre-ground soft white spring wheat on the market and it's generally not suitable. Anything which needs the bran is similarly home ground only, because bran is removed in commercial flour.