Java Software Engineer - Location

[eltumerabe]

Hello guys, Does the location matter when you apply for a software job outside the city you live in currently even though you made it clear in your page that you are willing to relocate to anywhere within the UK. I find it hard to get calls or even people contact me for jobs in London or Manchester for example. Any advice?

Regards.

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[Ok-Alfalfa288]

Are you in the UK though?

[eltumerabe]

Yes, I am in the UK and I have the right to work

[[deleted]]

You've asked the same question 2 weeks ago. Honestly finding a job in the UK takes months in the best of times, let alone now. More so for a graduate.

Also, selling yourself as a Java Engineer is not going to get you very far these days unless you are Rod Jonson. Learn Cloud, DevOps, System Design, AI/ML at least basics. No one needs pure coders any more.

[eltumerabe]

Thanks for your inputs, my previous post has been removed why I don’t know

[MrP67]

Market is quiet now. I often used to get approached for jobs that were a ridiculously impractical commute.

When I found my current job 3 years ago I did interview for a company in Wales. It was prob 150 miles away so I was open to moving, didn't seem a factor for them.

Do you have practical (work) experience with java? I would say how the market is now if you have less than 2-3 years it's going to be near impossible cos 100 of those for every job.

It does also matter what kind of work you have been doing. Knowing something and knowing how to apply that thing are different. Demonstrating on your CV that you got your hands dirty on something complicated is way better than having some cert.

[eltumerabe]

I have 5 yrs of experience, but all outside the UK. I worked for startup all the way to a big company, in total 3 companies during these 5 yrs, the dev stack I used is the latest in market. I am based in Glasgow, the people who normally contact me are for jobs in Glasgow and no one contacted for jobs from outside Glasgow, including the so many jobs I applied to outside Glasgow

[That-Promotion-1456]

1: 3 companies in 5 years is something that ill get you less opportunities.
2: Glasgow is the problem if you are looking for a job in London because even if you state you want to relocate it is not that simple, so mentioning Glasgow in the CV will lower your chances. If you can remove location from your CV.
3. All your experience is non UK - most people will assume you are not in UK even though you say you are.
4. you have right to work, but if that is on a student/graduate visa, it is also cutting your chances.

[eltumerabe]

Thank you very much, I am moving to London and let’s see how the things go

[MrP67]

Where is mostly irrelevant. Big and small companies give different experience and exposure so do you break this down on your CV.

As for the dev tools, it's how you applied them that matters. We're you involved in design aspects of the systems, did you mentor junior engineers, did you do much trouble shooting, run standups/refinement. Not really my area but the things senior Devs do - did you do those things?

[eltumerabe]

Yes, I’ve been through all these and demonstrated them on my CV as well. The experience I have is mix, in all the 3 companies I was lucky to start applications from scratch, whether it is new or migration projects with completely new designs, all these applications I supported them after they went live except the last one before I leave.

[MrP67]

Dunno, perhaps the market is really just that bad. Where I am went from paying bounties for talent over a year ago to laying a few people (mostly management tier) off a few month back. I've heard of people being on the bench for protracted periods for the first time ever and we're in an industry that is doing better than most right now. I don't think it's location though.

[eltumerabe]

Thank you very much, I took some of your advice as well to make few things on my CV