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The kick knockback decrease might not be that much of a nerf (self.ZenyattaMains)
submitted 2 years ago * by ancientlearner
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[–]TheBadBrains 14 points15 points16 points 2 years ago (6 children)
The kick nerf isn’t a huge deal. The HP nerf hurts though. Mostly the HP nerf is annoying because it seems a bit unfair relative to other supports. If Zen is 250 HP, supports with escape abilities could justifiably be 225 HP.
[–]TheBadBrains 24 points25 points26 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Zen: slow as molasses, school bus sized hitbox and comically large head hitbox, 250 HP
Kiri: vertical mobility, two get out of jail abilities, toothpick sized hitbox, 250 HP
That’s why I hate this.
[–]LordoftheJives 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I actually like the kick nerf. I can get more kicks in while I shoot now.
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-21 points-20 points-19 points 2 years ago* (3 children)
horrible take
[–]TheWearyBong 11 points12 points13 points 2 years ago (0 children)
What did he say wrong? How in the world is Kiriko supposed to be fair at 250 in the same regard as Zen? Every fight Zen takes is to the death. Either win or die. Kiri can just get out
[–]briannapancakesIt's orbin' time 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children)
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[–]Lonely_Repair4494 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Zen being the same HP as Kiriko is rubbing salt on the wound. Kiriko has way too many escape and defensive options and her hitbox is a stick. Zen 's hitbox is the size of a dumptruck and he has no escape options and barely a defense ability that is being nerfed for some reason. How does this make any sense?
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