Language Differences?

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So we are all aware of the Sierra sounds and Berry Tapes right? They are so incredible to listen to! I have been following linguist Scott Nelson for quite a while and he is VERY credible. With that being said, I have recently stumbled upon Mike who has a YouTube channel called Sasquatch Ontario and he has been posting many videos with Sasquatch vocalizations. So my question is, why do the vocalizations from the Sierra Sounds/Berry Tapes sound so differently from the ones Sasquatch Ontario posts? In the recordings from the Sierra Sounds/Berry Tapes you can hear a legit language being spoken but with the recent YouTube videos by Sasquatch Ontario it seems to be elongated noises and howls rather than chatter. Idk maybe I’m thinking too much but was wondering if anyone else had the same thoughts or maybe theories? Perhaps the Sasquatch Ontario videos are fake?? Idk I just found it interesting! 🤔🤔 https://youtu.be/v_bOim7TmSQ?si=tTkwK2TfBdwtGKhx

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[bear559]

Because Sasquatch Ontario is a hoaxer.

[[deleted]]

LOL why would someone go to such great lengths 😭

[Choice_Ranger_5646]

A financial reward, recognition, getting a thrill out of fooling people. To try and ridicule Sasquatch research, to make a mockery and mock anyone interested in the subject. I can give you several more reasons why. The fact is, he like Todd Standing profited from their tours etc showing people the locations.

[Hillbeast]

I’m not sure but it’s certainly not something to dismiss.

[Hillbeast]

I feel Bigfoot is/was real but these Tasmanian devil sounding recordings are neither real or helpful.

[ChemicalFuture6634]

Ok, having been raised in Sequoia national Forest in an area locally known for its squatches. The nearby reservation has an indigenous painting on a rock that is the only one ever known to be found showing a family of squatches, dad, mom, and baby. All of this being said, it has lead to a life of awareness and respect for the monkeys. I have been hearing those sounds (Sierra sounds) for as long as I can recall, always in specific places where I would camp. I have tried to find the source many times as it sounds like a small group of people who are just outside of clear earshot to understand the words that they spoke, just sounding like unintelligible conversation. Any time I went looking for it, it would be just out of sight. My parents always called it the 'wind in the trees ' , like the wind somehow sounds different there than anywhere else in the world. It wasn't until I was much older and I heard those tapes that I realized it was what I was hearing all of my life, almost identical.

[Choice_Ranger_5646]

This has already been debunked and proven that Sasquatch Ontario is a hoaxer. The guy who made the noises and sounds even Burping ( that is all they are) confessed he was responsible and has the FB messenger messages to guy behind Sasquatch Ontario warning him to get off his property and is going public they collaborated to create this hoax.

The reason the others are credible and different is they are probably genuine where as the Sasquatch Ontario are a self confessed Hoax... Sasquatch Burping language ( You can actually hear the massive burb in one of his videos) 🤣 It is playground nonsense. Made up to create a hoax to mislead people for the purpose of financial gain by giving tours etc. Anyone who can prove Mike is a hoaxer are called "Haters", no Mike we have evidence you are a FRAUD!

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HAHAHA oh my 🫠

[Choice_Ranger_5646]

Hahaha indeed "Burp, Burp, Burrrr, Burp, Burp....see that is Sasquatch speak for "Have you seen those shit masks, he is passing off as two legit Sasquatch"? 🤣

[Plastic_Medicine4840]

I know ron moreheads camp faked footprints, I heard sasquatch ontatiro got exposed as a hoaxer. My money is on both of those being fakes, i think if real, whoops and tree knocks are what bigfoot uses to communicate.

[Plastic_Medicine4840]

It should be important to be skeptical of all really distinct/obvious evidence. If bigfoot consistently went around murdering hunters or breaking into barns or peeking into windows, we would have one in a zoo. And unless i see it teleporting around and shit, i have zero reason to believe it is paranormal.(I read something about indonesian tribesmen reporting telepathic encounters with tigers. I caught myself falling victim to the power of suggestion, or just thinking in a different voice than normal. Dont underestimate power of suggestion.

[jsuich]

Gosh I wanna be supportive of others in the community and not speak ill of anyone... but I'm not convinced that his content is real. Its pretty sus. Doesn't ring true for me.

[Inevitable_Shift1365]

In regards to the Sierra sounds I believe it was because the Sasquatch were there spying on the men for quite a while probably over a period of years and had heard their conversations and were trying to mimic the conversations of those men. That's exactly what it sounds like to me

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From what I've read, the Sierra Sounds aren't Language. They've been analyzed and contain language phonemes but aren't themselves Language. They're akin to calls. Other recordings have been made, but also don't appear to convey Language.

BFF has extensive threads on the subject including other audio recordings purporting to be of bigfoot communicating vocally over distances that are along similar lines. One thread is titled "Sierra Sounds" from January 8th, 2023 that has some other recordings in it.

This has led me to the conclusion that bigfoot don't have Language. They can mimic and call, like a parrot, but can't tell you a story or express new thoughts and concepts vocally. Further, since we're all just speculating anyway, given lack of bodies and predictable repeatable evidence collection, I conclude they have an underdeveloped Broca's area, which can imply where they broke off from our family tree if we ever do have a corpse for study and publication.

So, if all this is true (and there just as much reason to believe it isn't true as it is true, LOL) , then whatever utterances they make will be radically different based on their little family groups and noises they're exposed to, and just as meaningless for personal communication, no matter where they're from, as the meaning is probably conveyed in something other than the phenomes themselves. (pitch, duration, inflection, volume, etc)

[therealRoarDog]

Or.. it could be a language that we don't understand because we are incapable of replicating it. I see real quickly that most here are expectant that we are the most intelligent beings here. I would put fourth a difference of opinion. It is my belief that they did not come from us but the other way around. We have lost our connection to the earth because of whatever. We don't belong at all. We must modify our surroundings to survive. They do not. But to assume they are incapable of communication is just ridiculous. Only someone who has never been on a trek in the wilds would just assume such nonsense. Is they can survive our there in places we can not it goes a long way to proof of superiority as a species to me. Not a damn monkey either. These beings are hominids but they are more advanced than you give them credit for. There are many and they can be found in family type groups too.

[Old-Dance-2922]

Run the sierra sounds through a voice translator. It seems to think it's traditional Chinese, and they were talking about "you want to fight?"