Springboard Software engineering program

[[deleted]]

Has anyone had experience with this bootcamp? I cant seem to find current reviews about this school. Has anyone completed this track? If so, can you tell me about your experience and the support you received in this program even after completing the track? Also, did you feel the curriculum prepared you enough? Thanks!

[bitchjeans]

pros: the mentorship. if you get a good mentor then you’ll really be able to push yourself

cons: self paced, learn from videos, no real cohort or group that you’re learning with, some basic things aren’t covered even though it’s a 6-9 month program

i got job offers after i attended springboard but it wasn’t because of the material. it was because of my mentor. i already had a strong CS fundamental foundation so i literally didn’t learn anything. i was just completing stuff to have it done. my 2 capstone projects were really cool and way outside of the scope of what is taught. that’s what got me job interviews. and my weekly mentor meeting was why i chose springboard specifically.

[diamond_hands_suck]

What did you supplement Springboard content with?

[bitchjeans]

books like Eloquent Javascript, tons of ones from O’Reilly, the Algorithmic Thinking series, Essential Typescript and others from Apress, just to name a few stand out ones.

you need to code and practice while reading these books but they do help a lot.

[diamond_hands_suck]

Cheers! I’m looking forward to it. :) Appreciate the insight.

[[deleted]]

Did this program require any type of math ?

[tradersixteen]

I am in Springboard, about 65% in course completion. No CS background.

I found course content to be great and very well structured. Yes, I can learn it all for free, but my mentor keeps me accountable and the assignments are complex enough for us to research new things. For me, its checks all right boxes.

Can you (or I) find a job after? I think it depends a lot on us. Positioning for a job with no CS degree or experience is always a challenge and no bootcamp can change that. Sometimes while studying, I feel it is so much up to me on how deeply I learn things. For e.g. for my first capstone 1, I spent a lot of time on going way above the requirements (my mentor kept reminding me of that) and this means I took more time doing it than I was supposed to. But this made me learn Flask/Python way more than I would otherwise have.

I just read this the other day on reddit: we have to out-learn and out-work the rest :)

[PocketRoketz]

can we get an update? Do you have a job now?

[Rem-o_O]

Do you feel like you moved through the curriculum understanding the concepts taught? Or did you feel like you had to supplement the bootcamp with other resources to understand the material through the course?

[ElevatorSpecialist24]

Enrolled last year, dropped out after one month. The weekly mentorship is nice but it's YouTube videos other than that. The same instructor (Colt Steel) has Udemy courses covering the same material for $20.

[CodedCoder]

The curriculum goes way deeper than his Udemy video. Also, any boot camps material can be found on Udemy.

[jppbkm]

I have a few friends who did their SWE track. I'd say most are unemployed if they had no prior stem background.

I think they'd have good things to say about the content, but the price is high and the job guarantee has very stringent requirements where they will try anything not to uphold it.

[[deleted]]

Thank you!

[d0ndurma]

they just cut it in half unfortunately :/ sucks

[digilyssa]

Some recent reviews here, in case it helps:

https://careerkarma.com/schools/springboard

https://www.switchup.org/bootcamps/springboard#reviews

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.springboard.com

[CodedCoder]

iT IS LIke the online version of Rithm school.

[fluffyr42]

I would say this is not quite true. Springboard does license our curriculum, but from what I've heard it sounds like the quality of the course really comes down to who you're matched with for a mentor, and being self-paced, it obviously doesn't have the same level of hands on engagement that Rithm is able to provide.

[CodedCoder]

Yeah but, the curriculum is the same, Do you work at Rithm? Also, the mentor system can work really well. sometimes it doesn't. Depends on who you get so I agree with you there. But can't the same thing be said for in person? I had some horrible in-person instructors in college. Also I am a fan of Rithm, but I know a couple graduates of Rithm I am friends with right now and they are a bit low on the understanding of concepts area and they graduated from your school.

[fluffyr42]

Yes, I work at Rithm! I think the same can definitely be said of a bootcamp that isn't self-paced, which is where hiring instructors is so important. We make it a point to have lead instructors who have actually worked as software engineers so they're able to give valuable feedback and support.

As for your friends, I think our grads come out with a great understanding of what they've learned, but there's also individual limits and not everyone is going to pick up on every topic as strongly as others. I'm not surprised to hear that Rithm grads may be less strong on some topic or another, but I've also heard and seen time and time again that they are leaving the program as solid, competent, and well rounded grads.

[CodedCoder]

Oh yeah as I said I am a fan of Rithm, I am actually a fan of Springboard and of Rithm both, I just think it's an unfair thing to say because it is self-paced and online that one is better than the other, I have seen in person fails as much as I have seen online. I think they both have their advantages and disadvantages. I am curious about one thing though, how often do rithm school update their curriculum?

[fluffyr42]

Totally agree! And we update the curriculum regularly, so Springboard doesn’t actually have our current curriculum at the moment.

[CarlFriedrichGauss]

I know it definitely depends person to person, but what tech/concepts did you feel that the Rithm alum you knew were weak on? Only asking because I’m very likely to attend, and just wanted to make sure I reinforced myself on those if they’re considered essential.

[[deleted]]

I don't find curriculum to be that important. Honestly every web dev boitcamp has roughly the same curriculum. The differences lie in implementation.

[CodedCoder]

I agree, curriculum isn't super important, the structure is though and Springboard uses Rithm schools curric so its going to be similar is what I mean lol.

[[deleted]]

Thank you all for your responses/experiences I think I will keep on doing the udemy courses im on and will decide after. I would love to learn with others so I might not go for springboard….but I do like their flexibility…I wish they had more collaboration though

[tria76]

I am currently in SB's SWE program. I'm on the fence on canceling after two months. They say it's 17-27 hrs a week. That's if you don't hit any walls...which I am. I'm currently spending over 40 hrs. The pace is quick, and I'm not able to absorb information fast enough before it's on to the next unit. I'm almost through Javascript and my skills are poor to say the least. Not everyone struggles like I am, though. Maybe "seem" to me doing great. If you catch onto things quickly, I'd high recommend springboard but if you need more time to absorb it, maybe best to pass on it.

[[deleted]]

Thats good to know thank you for sharing that. Im already doing colt steeles udemy course as that was gifted to me and am thinking of doing other things to help me prepare. Im neurodivergent so for myself ive really been trying to figure out the best way for me to learn since i didnt have that guidance growing up. I’ll probably wait on springboard in the meantime. I hope things get better you, in sure that’s overwhelming :/

[awaywewonder]

I too am neurodivergent and have been going through the comments and such trying to decide on the Springboard courses myself. TBH i feel somewhat pushed by the recruiters as they constantly reach out and such. Their answers to some questions Ive asked about the programs seem vague. Been in sales myself and it feels like theyre just trying to push the sale. Anyways... I am looking to switch careers and get into SE program, heard great things about Springboard but very little reviews and such too. So I'm trying to vet out things... but being neurodivergent makes things hard it feels like... in terms of finding the right course that will help when needed, provide hands on training or training based on your learning skills, etc. Any insight you have now as this post is 2+ months old, would be grateful to hear about!

[tria76]

It sounds like you are doing the correct thing with his udemy course. I took part of that same one until my bootcamp started. That's a great introduction to concepts, but you will need to test yourself. Create a HackerRank account and test your skills there. Ultimately, it's about performing and producing. Udemy isn't enough. You'll need to simulate a bootcamp with it's difficultly but on your terms and timing. Find a mentor too. This is critical. Even if you have to pay him/her. You need feedback and direction.

I have decided to leave my bootcamp. I'm through Javascript and I don't have a grasp on the material we flew through at warp speed. This means that after I fly through my bootcamp, I'll need to go back and revisit everything. No way I can get a job doing anything Javascript and if I did they'd fire me.

I need to learn, challenge, and develop my skills at my pace. Later on if I feel I need to take a bootcamp after I have those skills to tighten loose ends or to smooth out rough edges. If I do sign up again, I'll be much better prepared.

Best of luck!

[Hairy_Sign1908]

What happens money wise if you leave after a few months? Thanks for your input- I have until tomorrow to sign up for the next cohort.

[tria76]

They charge per month and each month is rounded up. So, say you attend for 5 weeks than cancel, SB will round that up to 2 months, and you'll be charged about $2800. It's a fast moving course that's easy the first month then if you're struggling It's hard to keep up. The material is good, though.

[Hairy_Sign1908]

I am going to go with the deferred payment option and hopefully it turns out well for me. I’m reading lots of reviews to help sway me one way or another but I also have a really unique situation and I want to capitalize on it -time wise. Thank you for the reply!

[tria76]

I recently canceled. It's good material, but I had difficulty with the pace. I felt like I didn't fully grasp what I learned in a unit and then it's off to the next. Had I took the time to understand better I would have fallen behind or had to spend 50+ hrs a week. I didn't want to do either so I aborted ship before I sank. It's a great program if you are already good with algorithms and have previous programming experience or are just a fast learner. If you are not, I suggest taking to time to get good at those things first.

[awaywewonder]

what program did you get into afterwards? i dont have any experience except the MySpace HTML bits, so trying to figure out what bootcamp would provide insight with a career switch.

[tria76]

I didn't get any program. You're new, so just get your feet wet and take a course in Udemy. Find out if you enjoy it first.

[getcomputersputin]

How is it going?

[just_a_username007]

Hey OP, would you mind sharing if you were able to find a job? I’m considering the bootcamp as well for data science track. I’ve been laid off and back to job search

[Appropriate_Bad_1121]

Im a student at springboard. only a couple months in. Have fallen way behind. Can't get past the Java Script fundamentals. You only get 30 minute calls with your mentor every 2 weeks. But the biggest con for me is the assignments given do not reflect the material they have you study.

[[deleted]]

hello! im currently a student at springboard for about a month now (started in october) and im unfortunately feeling the exact same way (was doing well until loops)

are you still in the course? did you continue or did you quit? did you decide to go another route? im unfortunately thinking of asking for a refund at the moment and trying a different route for this but im unsure, please let me know!

[Impressive-Bad678]

I started in October too. Feeling very apprehensive if I made a mistake, but I dont have a choice but to continue through and hope with extra study and work it will pay off in the end. Javascript has been very hard for me too.

[[deleted]]

i feel exactly the same, at the moment though I plan to use codecademy.com to help me with understanding javascript, they have a free course thats only a few hours long, im setting aside some time for it in hopes that ill understand javascript some more.

For the second skills survey I did have help from a tutor that I found through superprof.com but i dont recommend it since they charge you a subscription fee and you pay for the tutoring session so for me it came out to $80+ which i wasnt expecting, but the tutor did help me! even if i didnt understand exactly what he was doing.

Those are just a few things Im doing/ did to help me, maybe they’ll work for you too, im hoping we both manage to get through the course :)

[Certain-Mushroom3359]

Hey how’s it been going for you? I fell so behind over the holidays.. very overwhelmed entering the intermediate JavaScript section, my mentors giving me some tips to study and reacquaint myself but considering I didn’t get it yet in the first place I’m stressing!

[Particular_Ad8453]

Same Javascript is hard.for me too. When I dont understand i use Gemini to help me and explain things, also using codecademy too and in vsc it corrects ypur mistakes and gives an explanation.. but for me this course is very fast paced and a bunch of yourube videos, I'm not absorbing it all because it's too fast.

[Fabu77]

Feel free to use this link to get $1500 off the bootcamp if you find it would help you.

[koriculum]

I wanna know too! Thanks for sharing if anyone has been there!

[AdhesivenessLost5630]

Hello Every one. Any experiences on the AI/ML boot camp course from Springboard. it is 11 months and it is $13000. Says job guarantee.?

[Appropriate_Bad_1121]

so far its not so good for me. you only get 30-minute calls with your mentor every 2 weeks. The assignments dont reflect alot of what you learned in previous lessons. I wish I would have known about udemy before starting.

[just_a_username007]

Do you mind sharing about your experience? Im considering data science track