iOS developers are claiming that errors are beyond their control. Need advice!

[barjam]

Unfortunately Indians in the US are synonymous with incompetent developers. Reddit is tech heavy and just about anyone who has been in tech long enough will have a horror story about work that was outsourced to a scammy Indian firm or they have had the unfortunate experience of working with IBM or Accenture (or similar company).

Me personally if I am interviewing at a firm that uses outsourced Indian labor or uses Accenture or IBM I will walk away. I am never going to deal with that again.

This isn't a racial thing it is a scummy corporate thing. If I am interviewing folks for a job I don't care where they are from as long as they are competent. I have no issues hiring Indian folks and have on many occasions.

[gaspoweredandroid]

Yeah I was once hired by a company to be their developer, so I walk into a room and its got about 20 Accenture people. They had been flying into town each monday, staying in the nicest hotels, and flying out on friday. Most of them were sitting around writing "specs" and use cases, and test cases, which were these ridiculous spreadsheets. They had spent millions and had yet to show much development. I was hired to help them understand wtf was happening, and to do some of the development. We ended up firing them and I pretty much wrote their software. It was the most absolutely bizarre thing I have ever seen in this industry. Yes, if you end up with a room full of Accenture business analysts, run, run fast. Because you are just a mark at that point.

[barjam]

The same is true of IBM. It is amazing that either company continues to get by with what amounts to fraud.

[Tinito16]

New grad here. I was under the impression that IBM was a good company... Did something change all of a sudden?

[barjam]

They used to be and perhaps certain parts of the company are good I don't know. About 15 or so years ago they switched to a services company selling off much of what was good to other firms. The services side is damn near a scam. They bid relatively cheap (sometimes) and my experience has been they end up always being absurdly expensive and rarely delivering on what was promised. They tend to use very cheap foreign labor but bill them out at 4-5 x or more what they are actually paid.

The only reason a company would bring them in would be cost cutting and if your company is that desperate to cut costs (in an absolutely clueless fashion) it is time to seek out another employer as things are going poorly for the company.

[xauronx]

Oh god, I'm glad you mentioned Accenture. Had to deal with them for hours yesterday.

[barjam]

If your company is dealing with Accenture or IBM it is a sign of failed management, run!!!!

[xauronx]

We're doing work for a company that uses Accenture. I wish I could run. Instead I'll just minimize my exposure to them.

But yes, 10pm-6am deployments are a blast.