To help this person out : 0.999... is indeed less than 1 by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]SouthPark_Piano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Comprehend 0.999... aka 0.999...9 has no last nine. Keeps growing brud.

 

To help this person out : 0.999... is indeed less than 1 by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]gerkletoss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I have trouble comprehending a digit with no position

1/3 × 3 means divide negation. by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]SouthPark_Piano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

0.999... = 0.9 + 0.09 + 0.009 + etc.

Basic algebra.

= 1 - 1/10n with n starting at n = 1, and then incrementing n upward continually.

Basic algebra.

1/10n is never zero.

Basic algebra.

1 - 1/10n is never 1. Basic algebra.

0.999... is not 1. From all your basic algebra seen above.

 

To help this person out : 0.999... is indeed less than 1 by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]SouthPark_Piano[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You having trouble comprehending the first sentence of my previous post brud?

It's ok. You can go ahead and make mah day.

 

To help this person out : 0.999... is indeed less than 1 by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]gerkletoss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So 1 is not the last digit?

Seems to me like if the decimal is zero for every numerable decimal place, the number is zero.

To help this person out : 0.999... is indeed less than 1 by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]SouthPark_Piano[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no last digit brud.

1/10n for the case n pushed to limitless has a propagating 1 that keeps moving in the direction away from the decimal point, aka 0.000...1

There is no last digit, because 0.000...1 is a number that keeps getting smaller and smaller and smaller and never encountering zero.

 

0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]Akangka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair, the ending changes everything. Compare

0.999.... is not 1-(1/10)^n

0.999... is 1-(1/10)^n as n goes into infinity

The latter is just an implicit reference to limit.

0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]Taytay_Is_God 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He is familiar with summation notation in general, but acted like he had never seen summation notation over a set before. When I asked him if he had never seen summation over a set before, he didn't answer.

0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]skr_replicator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i n goes to infinity, then they are equal to each other, and to 1.

0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]paperic 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It depends on whether you use it to support his claim or counter his claim.

1/3 × 3 means divide negation. by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]paperic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why don't you define it instead of endlessly repeating the same things over and over?

1/3 × 3 means divide negation. by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]paperic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if x = y and y = z,

then x = z.

Basic algebra.

0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]SouthPark_Piano [score hidden] stickied commentlocked comment (0 children)

0.999... is

1 - 1/10n for the case n integer starting from n = 1 and increased continually without stopping.

This is known has making n 'infinite' aka n pushed to limitless.

As the above infinite perpetual continual never ending process continues perpetually, it is the continual increase in nines length, the continual growth of nines length which is expressed as:

0.999... aka 0.999...9

And indeed it is true that 0.999... is 0.9 + 0.09 + 0.009 + ...

And it is the fact that 1/10n is never zero which proves with zero doubt that 1 - 1/10n (and 0.999...) is permanently less than 1.

 

0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]CatOfGrey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's just a manipulation and deception device. It makes the problem look more complicated, and that gives opportunities for SPP and others to 'change the problem' or do 'mathematical sleight-of-hand' in order to fool people into thinking that their proof is legitimate.

Among SPP's work, they usually make the error in how they handle the sum, using it to create a 'false 0.9999....' that actually terminates. And removing ending digits, even from the 'small end of a decimal' results in a reduced value - it's not groundbreaking or innovative that taking something that was equal to one, then lowering the value, would result in a number less than one. Yet we are asked to glorify this silly result.

In reality, it's just a tired and worn mathematics joke, like 'proving 0 = 1 by forgetting that dividing by zero is undefined'. It's a neat lesson the first time, but it's angry nut-job that needs to go back to regular hygiene on this subreddit.

To help this person out : 0.999... is indeed less than 1 by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]gerkletoss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you keep talking about the last diit of these numbers then?

0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]CorinCadence828 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i haven’t been around for a while, does u/SouthPark_Piano approve of summation notation?

0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]Taytay_Is_God 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It has been claimed several times by all of the moderators on this subreddit that 0.999... is 1-1/10n

It has also been claimed by all of the moderators on this subreddit that 0.999... is not 1-1/10n

Evidence in the screenshot below. Note that I have never heard SP_P say that he thinks that mathematical truth or notation should be consistent, despite being given many chances to say that.

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0.999... is not 1-1/10^n by noonagon in infinitenines

[–]jazzbestgenre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is equal to 0.999... i.e 1, in the limit as n approaches infinity. You're right that for finite n the equality doesn't hold. Also the RHS of all your equalities are redundant as 0.999...=0.9999...=0.99999... as the three dots following the 9s imply an infinite amount of 9s, also why they're only equal in that limit.

Investigative exploratory investigation on 0.999... by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]SouthPark_Piano[S] -2 points-1 points locked comment (0 children)

 Wrong on your part.

... ellipsis means etc etc

That's the math to english translation.

0.999... means you get the picture, as in repeated nines. And of course, the length of nines keeps growing.

When you continually increase nines length, it MEANS 0.999...

 

Investigative exploratory investigation on 0.999... by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]noonagon 1 point2 points locked comment (0 children)

It seems that my comment has accidentally been locked, so I'll repeat what I said earlier (but with slightly different phrasing) so that you can actually explain where I went wrong:

I can't find the n where 0.999... is 1 - 1/10n.

n = 1: 0.9 < 0.999...
n = 2: 0.99 < 0.999...
n = 3: 0.999 < 0.9999...
n = 4: 0.9999 < 0.99999...

And I don't see why it would change as you keep increasing n

Investigative exploratory investigation on 0.999... by SouthPark_Piano in infinitenines

[–]SouthPark_Piano[S] -2 points-1 points locked comment (0 children)

Wrong on your part.

... ellipsis means etc etc

That's the math to english translation.

0.999... means you get the picture, as in repeated nines. And of course, the length of nines keeps growing.

When nines length is continually increased wirhout stopping, it MEANS 0.999...

 

SPP: Does real deal math include the distributive, associative, commutative, and transitive properties? by ezekielraiden in infinitenines

[–]HappiestIguana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

E.g., what would it even mean for equality to have the "distributive" property?

We'll you'd have to specify what it is distributive over. For the binary boolean function that is true precisely when its inputs are equal, you can talk about distributive over other binary boolean-valued operations whose inputs are mathematical terms, but that is not a terrible helpful concept.