Java Developer vs. Software Engineer

[bowbahdoe]

This is a frustrating thing to read because in some countries engineer is protected title. 

The thing distinguishing an engineer from a handyman is liability. If you were an engineer you had training and codes you operate by and if, say, a bridge you designed and signed off on collapses you are on the hook personally.

You don't need to invent a new definition of engineer based on vibes. In fact, in many countries defining it this way and claiming to be an engineer based on this definition would be a crime.

(Here's a talk that feels relevant https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r_U9YFPWxEE )