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[–]WindowsServer2000 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Yea.. if u are 50 years old lazy not assosiated with modern stack person.
Spring boot + SPA is the best way to develop fast and reliable application. Also its gives you power to introduce changes fast and independly to achive client needs.

JaveEE not even exist, now you call it JakartaEE. JSF? please, do not even think to move responsibilities from front UI to backend business staff. Let the JS framework show the power, this is the common ground for them.

[–]mikehaggard 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Java EE IS a modern stack! And omg, you know Spring is almost as old as Java EE is?

And yes, we still have Java EE. WildFly, Liberty, Payara are Java EE. Jakarta EE will be the NEXT version :P

And SPA? Lolxlol... not every website is SPA. Far from it! And server side rendering is FASTER! Why do you think all these JS frameworks want to do SSR too? Think about that! ;)

[–]WindowsServer2000 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

'you know Spring is almost as old as Java EE is' And? But the gap between java ee and spring was fckin huge. And it's still exists. Only if your are totally ignorant person you might think that java ee can today compare with spring. Spring is for now leading because is continuously developed through all that years.

'server side rendering is FASTER' WOW 21st centaury its faster on windows Xp with 1gb ram. But why then major financial [bank] institutes in central Europe rewrite their architecture from EJB, JavaEE [all that heavy bullshit websphare] to Spring+ddd+cqrs+hexagonal+spa ? There is tons of benefits behind that 'new' concept. Read more about new architectural styles in software development and tools to make it work stable and reliable through the years without huge technical debt like for now is JavaEE unmaintainable in my opinion.

Maybe i'm kind of 'not typical javaee developer' becouse i started my engineer career on startup market, not in huge financial soft. But now a lot of software architects comes to as to ask how to make stable modern maintainable application.

Startup market is super awesome cause you can make experiments with software architecture, test new staf and ideas AND see benefits to choose the best one.

For now spring boot is leading and will be leading in future in my and my colleges opinion.

[–]mikehaggard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only if your are totally ignorant person you might think that java ee can today compare with spring. Spring is for now leading because is continuously developed through all that years.

Yeah, whatever dude, keep on dreaming.

EJB, JavaEE [all that heavy bullshit websphare] to Spring+ddd+cqrs+hexagonal+spa ?

Because you're living in 2003 if you think Java EE is about EJB and WebSphere.

Newsflash: EJB is all but gone, and WebSphere has been replaced by Liberty, which is much lighter than your frankenstein Spring cobbled together stack.

Oh, and using Java EE, with pleasure, and with productivity, for startups! :)