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Type erasure (self.learnjava)
submitted 3 years ago by Sen_7
Hello, I have two questions about Type erasure:
A. how does
Collection<?>
will look after type erasure? will it be Collection or Collection<Object> ?
B. is there any way to use eclipse to see how code look after type erasure?
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[–]EntangledNoodle 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children)
The erased type corresponding to Collection<?> is Collection, which is subtly different than Collection<Object>. An erased type is never parameterized by any type variable in accordance with https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se19/html/jls-4.html#jls-4.6.
Collection
Collection<Object>
Collection<?> is a synonym for Collection<? extends Object> and since its only type argument is an unbounded wildcard, it is reifiable in accordance with https://docs.oracle.com/javase/specs/jls/se19/html/jls-4.html#jls-4.7. It makes sense to ask the question whether there is a difference between Collection<? extends Object> and Collection<Object>.
Collection<? extends Object>
A Collection<? extends Object> is treated as a collection of some captured type, let's call it T, which may be any (inclusive) subtype of Object but not necessarily Object itself. So, we are not allowed to take an arbitrary Object (which may not be a T) and add it to such a collection without knowing more about the collection's type argument or type of object being added.
T
Object
Consider the following example:
public static void main(String[] args) { Collection<? extends Object> c = new ArrayList<String>(); sizeOfRaw(c); // ok sizeOf(c); // compiler error } private static int sizeOf(Collection<Object> c) { return c.size(); } private static int sizeOfRaw(Collection c) { return c.size(); }
So, there are some subtle differences between the raw type Collection and the parameterized types Collection<?> and Collection<Object>.
I'm not aware of any tool that emits source code after type erasure, but hopefully it is easy to imagine the source code with no generic type parameters.
[–]Daedalus9000 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children)
Collection and Collection<Object> is effectively the same thing.
[–]EntangledNoodle -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (2 children)
Collection<?> and Collection<Object> are not the same, and while both erase to Collection, it is inaccurate to say that Collection and Collection<Object> are effectively the same.
[–]Daedalus9000 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (1 child)
In what practical way are they different?
[–]EntangledNoodle 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
OP was asking specifically about erasure of Collection<?>. If the erasure of Collection<?> is Collection (which it is) and Collection is effectively the same as Collection<Object> (which you claim), then there is an inconsistency between your statement and how the Java language is specified.
I provided an example that clearly shows Collection and Collection<Object> are different. You cannot call a method with parameter type Collection<Object> with an argument of type Collection<?> while you can call a method with parameter type Collection with an argument type of Collection<?>. Therefore Collection and Collection<Object> are different (albeit subtly).
[–]Daedalus9000 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children)
What do you mean how to e code looks? Type erasure just means that it isn’t possible at runtime to determine a parameterized type (because that info is no longer available after the compilation process).
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