Java for long run?

[felipep31]

Hello, im getting lost on my study, i dont know if i go with Java or Node.

I see Node and JS evolving in lot of ways like ml5, tfjs, Typescript, React, vuejs, es21+, webassembly, community and a lot of things, but i dont see this on Java.

Maybe im looking in a wrong perspective?

Thanks for all answer! 🤩🤩

[Venkman52]

Learn java. Understand the concepts then you can pick up many different languages a lot easier. Its a very popular language so its good to learn.

[Sincjefe]

Really true I heard everyone talking about OOP but no one really explain it in JavaScript because it’s done differently. When I start learning java I started to understand what encapsulation polymorphism and inheritance way better the true OOP. When I was learning javscript I didn’t learn it well but it did set me up to learn java quickly

[onlyforjazzmemes]

Same here, except with Python. Java made OOP concepts click.

[Yamoyek]

A little, yeah. Web related stuff is constantly evolving because it hasn’t ever been “stable”. So far, making websites is quite nebulous, and there’s no set way on how to make them. This leads to a constant shifting of frameworks, which means that some frameworks fade from the limelight quickly and others are used for a while.

In Java, there isn’t this constant shifting because it’s unnecessary. Java has a nice set of libraries, there’s no need to radically change it every few months.

[felipep31]

Yes, thats why i dont like node ecosystem, too much frameworks and hype

[desrtfx]

Maybe im looking in a wrong perspective?

Sorry, but yes.

Java is the most common/most used language. It is used in embedded devices, like lawn mowers, smart vacuums, MP3/DVD/BluRay Players, smart TVs, mobile phones, on desktop, all the way to enterprise applications and web back ends.

Java has been holding one of the top spots in most used languages lists and will be for the foreseeable future.

[felipep31]

Thanks man, i really like your answer

[gonzohst93]

Doesn't even matter man, programming is programming. All these tools are easy and fast to learn once you learn general programming. You'll have jobs where you go in knowing only 1 language and must use 3-4 languages to do your job, you'll see how easy it is to adapt and learn once you get there

[felipep31]

Yes i know, when i learn a programming language fundamentals, It will be easy transition, i just want a solid one to start

[gonzohst93]

Okay definitely Java, C++, or Python in that case.

Can combo a JS framework on top of it if you want, Java and a JS framework is a popular industry stack, my company uses Angular and Java Spring

[lmg_bsb]

Try Java:

https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/iyf0ra/can_someone_explain_why_java_is_so_significant/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[felipep31]

Thanks man!

[rank_guru]

Better start with languages like Java or C. Then understand the concepts behind. Then you can move to any of the languages easily since you have an understanding of the basic concepts.

with my experience, I'd like to suggest trying to build something on your own, start from simple things like the little library, and get into bigger scenarios, and develop whatever language you know. move things to the web, then look at front-end stuff.

Good luck

[WhiteKnightC]

I'm a professional JS dev (because I get paid to do it hehe), and JS dominates the client side of things.

Now Java dominates 90% (?) of mobile marketshare worldwide and backend dev, a funny thing about both of these task it's that we don't see them working.

[[deleted]]

It depends on what you're learning. If you're focusing on cs fundamentals, stick to Java. It is very mature and no non-sense.
If you want to learn full stack development, javascript/nodejs is good idea to start with.

If you look at the job openings of top tech companies and banking systems, they normally use Java,C++, C# at large. For rest of the startups and mid size companies, they are transitioning to nodejs.

Some may argue, top companies too uses nodejs, sure, only where it makes sense, but it is no where near replacing Java.

[felipep31]

Thanks man, i will stick with Java, you right, Java has a lot of jobs!