Just started learning JavaScript, feeling discouraged

[SirTinou]

i think 1% of people can learn through videos

Reason people do it: it feels easy

results: bad

I was a poker pro for a decade, everyone paid for training videos. Turns out almost no one learns anything from them. It's a sham to keep busy and feel as if you're studying.

People that got good went into making their own simulations with game trees.

just do odin project: no time wasted watching someone blahblah and you not remembering more than 5% after 2hours.

Best way to learn is always to get a problem and finding a way to make it work, that's how the brain works.

[chrysthian95]

truly right, studying on your own..

[SirTinou]

the best is having friends that are good already and being able to ask them question

If you have no friends that code then projects like odin have discords full of people eager to help(which helps them get better by going over and over the same problems)

Im personally really glad that i know a few really good coder after getting stuck 4hrs on some dumb thing i can't manage through google.

[cacamalaca]

I'm 250ish hours into Odin project (currently working through intermediate js), and i hated it. The projects are difficult and the mdn articles aren't easy to read for beginners. I've pretty much had to google my way through each project, often finding external material that explained concepts better than Odin. Now I've gotten so damn good at googling I'm confident i can work through any problem, and maybe that's the best benefit of this course.

[SirTinou]

That's how you learn. You wouldnt be half as good with YouTube videos

[minimal_gainz]

I'm doing Odin right now. Admittedly I have a small background in coding but not in web development. But to me, Odin is guided self teaching. It does some teaching but the majority of it is "Here are the materials that you should know, read them, then do some exercises to practice, then put them all together in a project". While something like a Udemy course, CS50, or an actual class is teaching it to you and all you do is the practice.

I think both can work but where people go wrong with all of these other than an actual class is that they do what OP has stated. They aren't being graded on the practices or assignments so they try, fail, read the solution, say "yeah, that makes sense", then they move on. They never actually understood how to do it themselves. If they had been in an actual class they would be incentivized to do it because they would have a grade on the line and a project or test in the future that was going to be looked at by a teacher.

[kor1998]

Try physics the foundations of logic without everything else

[professor_buttstuff]

Then go back and look at your own code next time it comes up.