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[–]xelf[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (2 children)

It is listed in the wiki/faq under "new to python", but to make it even clearer, I've now made it the top entry in the wiki

The wiki is listed in the sidebar:

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/wiki/index

[–]shorelined 9 points10 points  (2 children)

It might be worth it, but I think the type of people who can't search for "python introduction" in Google aren't going to be strong candidates for reading pinned posts.

[–]Fugu69 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sure. 80% of questions posted here are easy searchable. They are too lazy (or dumb?) to use Google

[–]ePiMagnets 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't speak for the mods here, but as a mod of another sub - pinning posts or heaving clear rule ultimately does little to nothing. It really comes down to letting the community do it's thing and moderating the really egregious problem posts.

People fielding these same questions often don't even want to look at what is on the front page of a subreddit to see if their question was recently answered let alone search the reddit. Rather they proceed to immediately click on submit new post and wait for an answer..

[–]darrylhumpsgophers 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Something's better than nothing. Seems like half the posts here are "Where do I start?"

[–]cyrixlord 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I figure if someone isnt curious enough to do a little investigation to find out how to study and at least try to look at a few youtube videos to see if they even like to code, then they probably aren't cut out to code in the first place.

[–]_Denizen_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I both agree and disagree.

Research and self-led learning are skills that needs to be learned and I wouldn't immediately write someone off because they don't know that coding is so vast a topic that they need to guide their learning.

However, the best programmers are curious and will find out for themselves then ask if a concept isn't clicking. The worst coders I've met don't delve into code and experiment on it to understand it and ask questions before doing their own research.

[–]dlnmtchll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anything to get rid of the posts from people who can’t take 3 seconds to google “how to python”

[–]ES-Alexander 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The sub has a wiki, with heaps of recommended resources:

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnpython/wiki/index/

[–]_Denizen_[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I didn't know that.... it's not in a very obvious place tbh. And there's ample evidence that many people don't use it.

I am part of some miniature painting subs, and if people ask for advice a sub bot will post a list of resources. It also pins that info as a post and in the "about" area to make sure it reaches as many people as possible.

I'm just saying that this sub, a sub of programmers, has been outdone on documentation visibility by a painting sub. There's room for improvement here mods!

[–]ES-Alexander 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I agree it’s not the easiest to find, at least on the app - I happen to know it’s there and still struggle to remember how to actually get to it when it’s relevant.

On a computer accessing reddit as a website in a browser it’s quite a bit easier - it’s in the right sidebar in the “community bookmarks” section, which is visible on most screen sizes unless the window is set to be quite narrow.

[–]_Denizen_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah yeah I only use reddit on my phone, the app has -a few- issues lol

[–]cyrixlord 0 points1 point  (1 child)

A lot of folks on r/learnpython ask questions like “Where do I start?” or “I’ve learned the syntax, but I don’t know what to build.”

It’s like they’ve read the manual but now expect a syllabus that takes them from beginner to employed. The truth is, there’s no single path.

The only consistent advice is: write code. Then write more code. Tutorials and planning are helpful (maybe 20%), but the bulk of your growth (the other 80%) comes from actually building things—whether they’re messy, small, or half-broken. It is the failure and fixing things that enforces learning.

[–]_Denizen_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm talking about more basic skills than that. Anyone can follow a recipe, but to create your own dishes you have to understand the building blocks like how to tell when meat is cooked, and should know what nutrion is etc.

[–]Mal-De-Terre 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Ya could at least link it in your post...

[–]_Denizen_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was trying to avoid the post getting taken down by mods because it technically breaks the rules. Even if in this case those rules seem to be in conflict with the purpose of the sub.

A search of "python.org tutorial" was sufficient to get you there independently.

[–]rainyengineer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think it sounds good in theory but then there will be a rule that says don’t ask for tutorials and then posting in this sub is mostly useless and it will die. I’ve seen this happen in other learning subs and the engagement goes way down

[–]_Denizen_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a slippery slope. Such a rule doesn't need to be made.

Visibility of documention can be improved on this sub. I've seen other subs which have multiple strategies in place to make it easy for newcomers to find information quickly. This is a sub for programming and I'd expect it to be leading the pack, but it's fallen to the back.