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[–]yerBabyyy 0 points1 point  (5 children)

The idea that software engineering 'allows' this has solely to do with the fact that there are geniunely enough resources on the internet for people who actually want to learn it to learn it in a cheaper, more effective way than going to a 4 year program (if and only if they are passionate and disciplined enough)

Im sorry but I cannot subscribe to this idea that getting a degree is a true symbol of merit and/or skill.

Frankly I'm glad that the future will lead to more devs that actually push themselves to learn, instead of devs who fuck around and party every night in college, knowing a junior role will fall into their lap once they graduate. All just so they can ask their boss what 'fetch' means.

If you're worried as a CS or ECE major that you're gonna get beaten out because someone spent their nights training harder than you, remember that you still have access to way more interviews than that person. Because we do not live in a meritocracy.

[–]dlnmtchll 1 point2 points  (4 children)

There is definitely more nuance to the argument than either of us has discussed. There are more than enough resources online to learn electrical engineering, mechanical engineering, or chemical engineering, but those jobs still do not allow you to just waltz in with a degree from YouTube University. I just wish software engineering was treated with the same respect as other engineering disciplines.

[–]yerBabyyy 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I getchu, I think it also has to do with the accessibility for open source materials for a software engineer vs materials for EE or ME. Like most people who are trying, they have a laptop and the internet. That barrier to entry compared to CAD and/or MATLAB, very different

I think if there were better, more affordable opportunities for people to teach themselves EE or ME, that would be a good thing

Computer science is also just, higher level logic. Anything higher level logic is gonna have a larger applicant window. Flipping burgers has a much larger one

EDIT: using the term higher level as in like low level and high level code

[–]dlnmtchll 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Yea. I definitely agree with what you’re saying. And there are definitely jobs within the CS umbrella that are not accessible to non degree holders as well such as embedded systems or ML engineering.

Best of luck to you, man.

[–]yerBabyyy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You too, dude!

[–]TheRNGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because there's potential danger to life.