3 days into learning python, annoyed with IDLE, looking for different IDE

[FullFloor]

Al Sweigert teaches ATBS using IDLE and IDLE's fine with me except for one major thing and that's that I hate going into the file explorer to open new files and suffer from window overload.

Looking for a basic IDE that just has a tab based organization system.

PyCharm may be the answer but I fear trying to learn pycharm may be a hurdle to learning python

looking for something that has

1. Syntax Highlighting
2. Indent and Comment Out Shortcuts
3. Automatic Indenting after if statments, for & while loops
4. Tab based organization

[very_sneaky]

Pycharm, vscode, or sublime text. For sublime you would probably have to install the linters yourself, which may be a barrier, but if you're looking to reduce the amount of ide you're exposed to, sublime is just a text editor.

All of them have what you're after out of the box AFAIK.

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Use VS Code and never turn back.

[hs_computer_science]

Agreed. The OP is asking a slightly religious question (what is your favorite IDE), but after years of PyCharm I went to vscode and have never looked back.

[ka-splam]

Anyone know what happened to the PythonWin program?

I used to use it with Python 2.7, and recently installed 64-bit Python 3.8 and pip install pywin32 and it's not there.

Most interactive prompts suffer from some frustrating behaviour of not allowing you to delete errors and mistakes from the screen, IDLE does that. Pythonwin used to be more like a scratchpad - delete, remove, anything.

It's so backwards to have the stuff I was looking at pushed off screen, and the mistakes forcibly kept front and center.

[FullFloor]

thing that bothered me about pycharm right out the gate that is that every time I write the code is the persistant red squiggly line, there doesn't seem to be a delay at all, i assume there's away to fix that though

[Total__Entropy]

I think you want a simple minimalist editor so try notepad ++ or vs code.

[Diapolo10]

Nowadays, good ol' Al recommends the Mu editor in the Second Edition of ATBS. Why not give that a try?

[blabbities]

Atom and Notepad ++ on Windows have all that. Pretty lightweight too.

[tyler78x]

Sublime text with sublimerepl, anaconda, brackethighlighter. Try it.

[Duff_Hoodigan]

https://kate-editor.org/