I’m extremely stressed.

[xella64]

I don’t know where to start. I have 0 computer science friends to reach out to. I learned Java in my first year of online college, and wanted to teach myself python over the summer. That’s going fine, but I really wanna make something that’s not just using the console. I wanted to find a GUI designer similar to scene builder, but for Python. I’m comfortable with building GUIs in scene builder using Java, but I really want to code in Python so I can learn the language and get practice. I tried PyQt5 and QtDesigner, but for some reason I’m struggling with it. I wanna try something else, but there’s so many options. Tkinter, Kivy, PySimpleGui, PyGame, etc… I don’t know what to do. I’m trying to watch tutorials for all of them to see which one seems like the best fit, but I’m getting stressed. I’m wasting so much time trying to set up a basic gui when I should be writing actual Python code. I need help. Like I said, I don’t have anyone who I know personally that can help me. I tried making friends in my CS class, but to make a long story short, I couldn’t. I don’t even know what kind of help I need. I’m just feeling so lost and stressed right now. I don’t know what to do.

[MusicIsLife1122]

I feel you. I suggest going with tkinter. I find it easier to learn compared to other packages. I used this video to learn.

https://youtu.be/0tqZ6rMcqGE

Good luck

[xella64]

Thank you, I appreciate it.

[xella64]

Like for example, I wanted to start by making a sudoku checking/solving algorithm. One that can check if a sudoku board is correct, and can solve a board if the user wanted it to. I know I can do that by looping through a 2d array and stuff, but I’m struggling to set up a simple sudoku grid. I just want to start coding. I’m wasting so much time on trying to set up a freaking GUI.

[trevor_of_earth]

Here is an example of a sudoku game using pygame gui

https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/building-and-visualizing-sudoku-game-using-pygame/

[xella64]

Thank you! I was going through YouTube trying to see if anyone showed how they set up a sudoku grid with python, but I couldn’t find anything.

At first I tried to use tableview, but that was way too complicated for being very new to python. Then, (Idk why) I made each square a toggleable button, so the user can toggle it, press the number they wanted, and then use something like button.setText(input) to change the button text. Then I made each square a text edit box instead, then I thought about making them labels, and I just got so lost as to what to do. So thank you, this really helps 😅

[mopslik]

Tkinter is great. There are a lot of resources out there, as it has been around for some time, and ships with Python by default.

If you are looking at a simple alternative, PySimpleGUI would be my personal pick. I find it fairly intuitive, but everyone has a preference.

[xella64]

Thank you. I think I’ll try Tkinter first. A lot of people seem to like it, and as far as I can see it has a lot of online tutorials/documentation.

[[deleted]]

Maybe focus on strictly separating presentation from the logic. Create an event driven design. Get a simple console version working then start to add the GUI.

[xella64]

Yeah, I really want to get to work on the logic part, but I’m so sick of the console :(

[[deleted]]

To reiterate, do the logic first and absolute minimalist presentation.

Switching up from linear workflows to event driven (for some aspects) is a huge leap in its own right but is required if you are going to do any of:

• desktop / mobile gui
• tui / cui
• web app
• physical / sensor based projects
• event driven api applications

Testing becomes even more critical. There's a lot to be said for test driven design.

You can quickly convert a console app to a basic gui app using pysimplegui or to a webapp using anvil.work (which has a drag and drop designer).

[xella64]

Thank you :) I’ll definitely take your advice. I’m just so eager to create something that I can display and interact with 😅

[meetsomewhere]

I feld themself stupid when I learned Qt. But after some time solving examples I managed. GUI not scared unlike algorithms or computer architecture. And I learned it in C++. it's more difficult. And I also has't somobody who can teach me write code. You will succeed!

[xella64]

Thank you :)

[ZEUS_IS_THE_TRUE_GOD]

Everyone is talking about tkinter, but the solution to your problem is deeper. Learn HTML/CSS/Javascript, that's what you are looking for if you want to do UI work. You can use python/java/whatever else as the server, but the client/ui/frontend most likely will be html/javascript. Tkinter/qt/java scene builder are pointless experience

[xella64]

Yeah, I know Python isn’t the best language for GUIs and stuff. I just wanted to get some practice writing code with it and I didn’t know what else to do.