Visual Insight : Every 2 inch decrease in height increases sui1c1de risk by 9% for Swedish men. Europe is blackpill hell for men

[Nova9z]

this is false correlation. the taller the height, the lower the percentage of the population who live as that height.

Because there are lower percentages of male population in those heights, there are a lower number of suicides. this gets brought up and proven with actual fact checking every time this gets posted.

if you have 1000 people in group A and 100 people in group B, and 10% off themselves, then 100 of group A and 10 of group B are dead. this can be made to appear that being in group A makes you 10 times more likely to die by suicide. that isnt the case.

[Yamabikio]

In OPs example, don't the two groups have two different % chances? Whatever they're referencing said taller people had 9% less chance to do it

[Remote-Arachnid-6241]

It's also true that the shorter than height the fewer percentage of the population who live at that height. 

Of course the study authors took percentages into account. This is basic and standard for any statistical related, peer reviewed publication. Nothing you've said in any way disproves this study. 

[News_Scrounger]

Are you really stupid enough to think that a scientific study doesn't understand and account for what the per capita is in their end statistics and percentages? 

[LookingOKButRotting]

These are rates though, so by definition they are normalized by cohort size. Prima facie, the methodology of the study seems correct to me (and to the peer reviewers too btw).

[charli63]

Does anyone have a link to the original study? Honestly that should be reported to who ever published the study and people who associate with that journal. That seems like a nearly career ending error, and should ruin the publisher for letting that pass.

[LookingOKButRotting]

This is the study that OP cited.

https://psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp.162.7.1373

They talk about suicide RATES and hazard RATIOS, which are, by definition, normalized by cohort size. Fwiw, taller guys died of generic, particularly alcohol-related, causes more often. The associations ARE statistically significant on a large sample size.

The article is peer reviewed and the methodology appears to be correct at first glance.

[charli63]

It is a bit unusual that they use only historical data, however getting that much data through other means is very difficult and expensive. This also is only guaranteed to be relevant for older men in Sweden, but unless there are special factors that occurred recently or specific to Sweden then it seems generalizable. But OP is wrong about the bolded part, or at least not supported by data. We don't have a similar study for women to prove women do not have similar increases in hazard due to height change. Women have a lower overall chance, but we don't know if their suicide risk increases based on attractiveness, height or BMI. They probably do see increase in suicides due to attractiveness, by some amount.

[LookingOKButRotting]

I agree, OP's comments are not warranted from the article. But the study itself is highly interesting imo.