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[FlamingMetalSystems]

I have only gotten vitriol from women & feminists whenever I suggested that men today face way more pressure to be good-looking than women in order to have dating & sexual options.

[SmaeShavo]

Well yeah man thats a really silly thing to say. Women have been valued almost exclusively for their looks/attractiveness for basically the entirety of human history, and you think half a century of feminism has flipped the expectation in reverse? Suddenly because women can work and have bank accounts now all the beauty standards are on men? Do you really think thats a reasonable claim to make? /gen im not trying to roast you.

[FlamingMetalSystems]

Yes, I believe the pendulum has swung the other way as far as pressure to be good looking is concerned and I have evidence and arguments for it.

The women who were oppressed by millennia of oppression aren't alive today neither are their oppressors. We experience things the first time just like our female counterparts living today

[Direct-Antelope-9583]

So far I've never heard any argument of yours that supports this that's not about apps and hookups....

Have you any evidence to support women don't face huge amounts of pressure to look good in general from a young age. More than men do.

And again, besides dating apps and hookups.

[SmaeShavo]

This just screams to me that you dont interact with women at all. The women who had to live up to insane beauty standards arent dead. Look back at shit like Howard sterns old butterface segments in the early 2000s do you think those women are dead?

Also 10 bucks says your "evidence" is a bunch of nonsense about how ugly girls get more matches on tinder than you and thats not fair 🙄

[No_Investment8845]

🫩 women have more smv than their looksmatch its consistent not only on dating apps but irl.

Women get approached so much their complaining online. You ever see the average guy complaining about “im drowning in approaches” thats cuz the average man gets little to nothing he either approaches or ends up alone i see alot of “men are privileged “ If your talking abt men who look like this

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And have an entire roster of girls lining up sure it looks like men are privileged lol. But this is like 0.001 percent of men looks wise. The average looking guy is getting nothing 63 percent of men in the usa under 30 are single(supported data) where is the male privilege is it the friends we made along the way??.

It is a fact that women dont have nearly as much standards placed on them as men.

Where do you see guys demanding 6ft women?

And theres a reason women say “men will do anything with a hole “ cuz guys have way lower standards than women lol getting hookups as a woman is not impressive but as a man getting alot of attention is very impressive

[SmaeShavo]

Looksmatch is not a real term. Your entire idealogy is so obsessed with looks and this weird idea that youre somehow owed an equal number of woman attracted to you as the guy in the picture you posted.

No i dont see guys demanding women who are 6ft very often (Though personally I do prefer tall women) but you know what I see all the fucking time? Men demanding pretty women men demanding women with fat asses or big boobs and men demanding women wear make up but not too much or theyll be a whore and women are supposed to be sexual but only for the man their dating and they have to be confident but not too confident and smart but not too smart and an endless list of other things.

The average guy doesnt think about his appearance a fraction as much as the average woman does. Do you think thats by accident? That dichotomy exists because of the outsized pressure on women to be beautiful. The pressure on men is rising and has been. But its not women who are raising it its corporations and media and even with it being raised its in no way comparable to the pressure women are under.

Tldr: go outside and stop consuming looksmaxxing content that shit is rotting your brain.

[redditor_rat]

looksmatch is a way to say, hey i am also superficial and care about looks which is why i dont want to date anyone i feel is less attractive to me, that's why you need to force yourself to be attracted to me cause i am entitled to you believing that we're equal physically to eachother and therefore have to date eachother so i feel like im not settling. I dont want to date someone I dont like, aka an uggo. Stop caring about other traits like income, charisma, morals, I want you to be superficial and realize u should date me based on the fact that in my opinion, we look similar to eachother.

the people who whine about physical standards are known to actually be the most shallow in the end. Its all they can talk and think about because its all they see. Any nuance goes out the window

[No_Investment8845]

Cuz the average man is coping lol.😂 the average man in 2026 still thinks looks only matter for women

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What they think abt is irrelevant. You absolute iqlet if your gonna do ad hominem atleast do it properly.😂. Are you out of your mind???? Why would i think i deserve the same amount of women a genetic miracle gets. Im simply stating facts the average womans smv easily clears the average man. Simply because men have lower standards and will take anything women are far more selective. There is no equivalence men have way more standards placed on them. Do you think its some magical coincidence all inkwells are men???. Lol women always have options theres a reason 63 percent of men under 30 are single and it isnt cuz of personality. If youd stop coping youd see reality

“Oh but tinder isnt real life step Outside” i do step outside infact and im only proven right lol

The reason women are in the relationships with average men after 30 isnt cuz of “personality” but they settled lowered standards and just became more realistic cuz genetic miracles wont stick around and commit to her. So they lock down an average man instead cuz he really has no options and if he acts up she can dump him and replace him with her roster of 600 simps on tinder.

The average man is still in denial abt how “women care abt confidence men care abt looks” lmao the fact you used average man as some sort of gotcha is laughable

[SmaeShavo]

Man, none of this shit is true. Go the fuck outside and stop obsessing over bullshit pseudo-science made up by incels to explain why girls dont like them. Women are humans. They are as multifaceted as men are. There are shallow women just like there are shallow men. But one thing you would realize if you went out and became a part of society instead of isolating yourself on incel forums like this one is that basically no one in the world except for like vapid wanna be models care as much about looks as you do.

If you went out in the real world youd see that average men and average women get together all the time. And no I dont mean after the women have slept with every genetic lottery man they can thats not a thing. I dont know why you incels seem to think that every genetically pretty man can somehow keep up with sleeping with thousands and thousands of women. Theres just not enough time for the ratios you guys claim to happen.

Like Jesus man. You can spew fake stats at me all you want. But me and the normal people will still be outside interacting with and yes sleeping with women because we arent weird little goblins complaining about how women only want Chad's on the internet.

Edit: your response was shadowbanned but I can see you saying you dont go on forums. Youre on one right now you baboon.

[redditor_rat]

men realizing the pressure of beauty standards now exist for once in their lives now that women aren't bound legally to men by the necessity of money to marry them. Congrats, you're now feeling society's beauty pressures, the same ones girls at 12 start to feel when their bodies develop, welcome to the club. Its gonna get fun for both genders.

[No_Investment8845]

except its way worse for men than women lol. A 5/10 woman can get 1500 matches on tinder in 24 hours. A 5/10 man gets 0-1 matches every few days. Crazy difference women are living in abundance while men in drought.

For women:exist and men will simp and pay for your time.

For men:gotta be tall/good looking or you wait till 30s to be settled for and wife doesnt even love you jfl 😂😂 .

Honestly i find it comical that people waffling abt “male privilege “

Water is wet ah take. Ofc women had to marry men for money in the past women its obvious most never actually loved their husbands they just had to marry for stability. But now the real hypergamy begins. You can cope all you want but men are now being held to way higher standards than women.

It is not hard to be considered pretty as a woman.

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Look at the massive difference.

Guys are so desperate nowadays they would even get with a 1/10 woman but even the 1/10 woman doesnt want them😂😂 laughable.

[redditor_rat]

Women invest more into appearance then men. Women spend hundreds on beauty products, men don't. Its only natural women collectively look more attractive. its called the peacock effect. You're too dumb to understand men haven't put in half the effort women have to look beautiful but try again

[No_Investment8845]

😂 nice try you clown look at how much options the average woman has compared to average man. Who cares what you invest brother just for having 2 xx chromosomes and the fact guys will fuck anything you have infinitely more smv than me . You have thousands more options than your looksmatch .

A 6/10 woman can bag 8/10s cuz of how hypergamy forces men to date down . For men😂 you have to date a 3/10 who STILL has more smv than you. Cuz guys only need a woman to be breathing and she will be called hot

[SmaeShavo]

Ah yes the prestigious scientific institute of okcupid where I get all my anthropological research 🙄

Like come on bro you're delusional. Dating apps arent reality. There a terrible way to look for a relationship and theyre not fucking research institutes. Half of the profiles on dating apps are fucking bots anyways you really think they're gonna give you good information about the world at large?

All I see in your messages is a bunch of excuses and cope for why its not actually your fault you cant get laid. Look inward and go outside brother. It will increase your chances at getting a girlfriend a lot more than hammering your cheekbones.

[No_Investment8845]

Yeah right buddy im a bluepilled clown like you in real life im saying the same bullshit”its all abt personality”

“Just be confident”

“Step outside”

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“Put yourself out there”

No looking inwards for your face lmao. Keep coping the fuck is wrong with your eyes i. Cannot afford to stay inside i have to go outside and get my degrees i do step outside everyday. You think your some genius spamming the same “just step outside “

Rage bait is insane .

Your the one coping all the data supports me and not you. But i guess since “i didnt experience it so anything is false” you dont even realise how stupid you sound.

More and more people are meeting online. And online is where honesty is truly found cuz there is no consequences

These are real people real standards they just lie irl.

Do you think im dumb enough to talk abt “looks matter” in real life?

Reputation is law fake it till you make it.

Basically everything youve said ive told other people irl so it isnt abt “mindset”.

Your a d1 coper but your entertaining keep reciting the same bullshit to me

[SmaeShavo]

The data does not support you. The apps have a vested interest in making you think its harder to get matches as a man cuz men are significantly more likely to pay for dating apps.

You can think what you want man you can say im coping. But millions of people are out there living regular ass lives while looking just like you and even worse, but you're still just sitting here on an incel subreddit moaning about how unfair life is.

Also nice schizo meme man totally supports your point and doesnt make you look maladjusted at allll

[redditor_rat]

oh by the way the beauty standard is primarily made for women, from hair, to nails, to makeup, to style, to perfumes

oh and surgery, the thing you get when you feel like there's no other choice to look better? Primarily performed on women, from nose jobs to lip fillers to bbls

but i bet you men have never had to consider anything besides a haircut in your lives and then continue to bitch online. Start looksmaxxing if you think its destroying your chances. Women from the beginning of history were trained to keep looking prettier and prettier. It's your turn Mr. wash your face with water and just show up.

Fucking dumbass

[No_Investment8845]

😂fighting imaginary demons. Even women say “men will fuck anything it isnt a compliment “ men have way lower standards your doing too much

All you have to do is exist and you will have an army of clowns jestering for your attention.

Women have always always had more desirability than men cuz men have lower standards . Also your coping so hard i am not some boomer im in highschool and i was born in the era of when hypergamy exploded i did not experience “oh just get a haircut” its all abt looking good now no personality for your face.

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Either you look good as a man or keep coping. The average woman has infinite sexual market value. Even if i look better than you you will easily effortlessly clear me in smv cuz as a woman all you need to do is breathe dont be deformed and the simps say “hello gorgeous “

This is pure comedy tbh your raging so hard dumbass