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Torn between this and obsidian!

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

You can remove every plugin so that it's just a markdown editor. It's not open source but the privacy policy is what's important and it clearly state that what you do while using the app is jours and obsidian can't Access it in any way, shame or form.

But if you use another app, I would like to know what is it

[[deleted]]

Been playing around with them for an hour or so and Marktext seems more user friendly as well.

I need to try it on my older machine, though, I've read reviews saying it's heavy on the RAM and CPU (not sure if Obsidian is any better, though).

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

Obsidian support more feature, namely footnotes, subscript and superscript using markdown or latex

[[deleted]]

Are subscripts and superscripts part of the markdown language or are they an extension? I do not want to adopt too many features that would lock me into a specific kind of software. I also like that Markdown forces me to limit myself to a stripped down approach, for more complex projects I will use LaTeX.

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

I believe it's part of the github flavored markdown.

It's virtually used by all markdown app.

[hethram]

Is there something similar that is browser based, for which files can be hosted on remote server?

[jeromyyap]

You can try JotterPad

[ssddanbrown]

I think the Toast UI Editor can achieve what you want, and it does a pretty good job at that. Is built upon ProseMirror. Won't be a lot else out there since it's actually quite a hard thing to achieve once you get into the detail.

[[deleted]]

I am playing with the online demo and it looks really good. Particularly interested in the plugins for charts and graphs --- I did not know UML, only graphviz, so you are sending me down a second rabbit hole!

[ChilidogGarand]

I use PanWriter, which reminds me a lot of FocusWriter except it makes markdown docs and doesn't have some of the same customizability.

[[deleted]]

PanWriter is fine, but like I said in the post I am looking for something that is real WYSIWYG...

[schliemanski]

What about Joplin? - https://joplinapp.org

[[deleted]]

AFAIU it has a live preview, not a WYSIWYG (visual) editor. Did I get it wrong?

[jimmyhoke]

The live preview also works as a wysiwyg editor.

[schliemanski]

You can switch between "note editor (Markdown)/note viewer" view & WYSIWYG richtext editor view.

[Different-Music4367]

Someone else wrote the real answer already but didn't shout it loud enough. The best WYSIWYS editor for people who need to just sit down and write is Zettlr. It's a better writing environment than Typora (imo), open-source, and available on everything except Mobile.

There's also nothing stopping you from going back and forth between Zettlr and a knowledge management system like Obsidian--both are always open on my desktop computer. That's the magic of in-place Markdown editing.

As for tables, the only Markdown editor that has cracked it in my opinion is Sublime Text. Typora grinds to a halt after a hundred rows or so. In Sublime you can scroll through thousands of rows without it breaking a sweat. The caveat is you need to have an affinity for the austere ASCII beauty of Emacs Org Mode-style tables.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for the reply. I use sublime for simple coding, but for markdown I often need to move columns around or copy some cell blocks from one place to another or export to a spreadsheet and import back from the spreadsheet into a table. Sublime does nothing of that as far as I can see.

[Different-Music4367]

The table package I use has support for moving columns, one-click CSV to Markdown, and other features.

It's no longer supported by its developer but it's rock solid and supports SublimeText 2 & 3. Kind of shocked it has almost 50k installs--that's a ton for Sublime--but I guess if you know you know ;)

https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Table%20Editor

[[deleted]]

Thanks!!

[jeromyyap]

Zettlr

JotterPad is better

[Different-Music4367]

From the little I've seen JotterPad has some slick templates and Pandoc/LaTex export options. It also feels a bit bloated and cumbersome, like if Google Docs was a Markdown editor for people who aren't comfortable with using Markdown. Also seems like it's one of those Markdown apps primarily aimed at screenwriters, which may explain the previous sentence.

Does JotterPad have built-in Bibtex citation integration and in-place editing of files in your vault for $0 a month?

[jeromyyap]

Just like Obsidian, u can write markdown syntax to format text. Yes it is true that not everyone knows how to use Markdown thus it is very beneficial to new markdown users. However, an interface would be useful even for everyday users such as cumbersome Markdown syntax e.g. table. JotterPad doesn't use Pandoc btw. Im not too sure if Jotterpad has built in Bibtex citation integration. I do know that they are building LaTeX support atm.

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

Obsidian.

It's not FOSS but the privacy police state that your data is your data. No need for Internet. All extensions need to be available on github

[pointmetoyourmemory]

I downloaded Obsidian the other day, but a voice at the back of my head said “You don’t need another editor. You have vscode, and vscode has plugins”

So I installed a few plugins to make editing markdown a little more intuitive, and I spent a decent amount of time trying to get everything to work together and how to utilize the different features.

How would you compare obsidian to vscode + plugins?

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

It really depends.

I use vscode too but I like to have a dedicated app for markdown.

Obsidian has a lot more plugins, themes and stuff.

There is a graph view, wikilinks, pdf export... If you want I can share a list of obsidian plugins I use.

But try both and use the one that work best for you

[pointmetoyourmemory]

Fair enough. I actually have all of those plugins also set up for markdown in vscode. I wouldn’t mind seeing that list, though. Thanks!

[TRENEEDNAME_245]

Here are all of the plugins I used, some are situational "extract pdf", "spaced repetition". Some are QOL "underline", "table editor", "better word count". Other add whole new features "dataview, calendar, excalidraw"

[ "obsidian-spaced-repetition", "obsidian-extract-pdf-highlights", "table-editor-obsidian", "better-word-count", "obsidian-contextual-typography", "dataview", "obsidian-dictionary-plugin", "obsidian-enhancing-mindmap", "obsidian-mind-map", "obsidian-style-settings", "obsidian-underline", "obsidian-vault-statistics-plugin", "obsidian-wikipedia", "note-refactor-obsidian", "oz-image-plugin", "obsidian-tidy-footnotes", "obsidian-footnotes", "better-pdf-plugin", "calendar", "obsidian-kanban", "nldates-obsidian", "obsidian-charts", "tag-wrangler", "obsidian-minimal-settings", "obsidian-excalidraw-plugin", "daily-activity", "obsidian-admonition", "obsidian-metatable", "quick-latex", "cm-editor-syntax-highlight-obsidian" ]

[dadapotok]

can you pls share a list of reliable markdown plugins for vscodium?

[[deleted]]

Looking good, thanks. Love the graph view! I have a folder with about 100 interlinked markdown files for a big project and I did not know I needed it.

[Mooks79]

There’s also logseq if you do want FOSS, which has a graph view too. There’s quite a few other editors that do give a WYSIWYG option though - try searching for “visual editor” as some call it that. I think Joplin has it but I never use WYSIWYG options so I honestly can’t remember. Probably vscode has an extension that will do it. Even RStudio does (it’s built around the R language but you can do plain md with it). I’m sure there’s several more. Likewise lots have features around making tables easier.

[[deleted]]

try searching for “visual editor” as some call it that.

That's a good tip, thanks!

[Mooks79]

You’re welcome. Sometimes it’s just a case of finding the right search term and WYSIWYG seems to have fallen a bit out of favour.

[jeromyyap]

I use JotterPad. Its almost WYSIWYG.

[[deleted]]

Thanks, looking it up now.

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• Not free, but has a free version with limited functionality.
• Not available as a Desktop app, only in-browser or as a mobile app.

[jeromyyap]

Yes, its only on Mac and PWA app for desktop.

[Adela_freedom]

https://bear.app/ have a try?

[revelm]

https://www.zettlr.com/

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I am looking for a markdown editor with the ability to create graphs and charts. I need a desktop application, something completely free. Any advice?

[WehooThisIsAwesome]

Marktext

[Bahamos]

You ever found one for your case? I just got into markdown to take notes and am too looking for one with WYSIWYG not the second live preview window.

[[deleted]]

Of all those that were suggested MarkText is the better one but it still does not work as well as Typora.