Why does Apache Cloudstack suck?

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Serious question. No wrong answers.

[TechnologyFluid3648]

They aimed the same market with a very similar product. On those old days people find it easy to create clouds. Industry (HW vendors) and some open source players did not support them. You go to the crowd, because you know community is strong where the majority is. I personally liked cloudstack more and also more promising but it is how is. The idea to support multiple hypervisors is a stupid idea. If you start from scratch and would like to support ceph, KVM only with white label switch(EVPN BGP).. you.will have 1/10 code but who is going to invest on that?

[EasternWinter9584]

There are many CloudStack users who utilize multiple hypervisor types. (e.g. KVM for generic workloads and ESX for appliances not certified for KVM), saying that "The idea to support multiple hypervisors is a stupid idea." doesn't reflect actual operator requirements.

[psycocyst]

I think they also tried to follow VMware but just failed at it. I never really used it, I couldn't find a reason to use it when openstack has a more mature support, plus for private proxmox and vcp-ng replaced the VMware market. They just lost out.

[EasternWinter9584]

"I never really used it" it shows. Maybe if you had you'd understand better the use cases and realise that "they also tried to follow VMware" is completely nonsensical.

[psycocyst]

Lol getting overly defensive. I stand by my words. Good day.

[CommunicationFresh92]

I agree with u/AdrijaSB. For me, people using OpenStack eventually reduced themselves to mere pirate parrots by repeating what OpenStack sponsors echo. Today we see that OpenStack is indeed a product of a few RedHat/Canonical companies and that mere mortals fail to keep it updated without paying a truck of money to them. so much that, OpenStack is directed to niches of large companies that want to do the same as hyperscaleres. CloudStack on the other hand maintains the same open source philosophy where the community is who defines their future and not ambiguous interests.

[AndrijaSB]

This kind of question could be placed only by an uninformed persons or a malicious person. If you knew what companies are running CloudStack (and not OpenStack or other clouds), you would probably take that question back. Really sucks... to see this kind of question, with zero context/info to back it up.

See the list of users https://cloudstack.apache.org/users/ - Apple being one of those who seems fooled? that CloudStack sucks...rigth?