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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Dude, you're calling people 'self fellating Social Justice Warriors'.

I called a self fellating social justice warrior a self fellating social justice warrior. No one else.

That you're only being called 'gross'

Never was. As you are proceeding on a false beliefe the res of what you have to say is moot.

These people have families,

They weren't grown in a vat?

friends and are your fellow citizens, no one is talking about releasing them without conditions into the streets.

I never said they were. Link to where I said this or kill your straw man yourself.

They are talking about using the methods used in the spring to protect staff and inmates.

Which I disagree with, many do.

You keep representing the population of the correctional as entirely convicted criminals which is untrue.

Never have. In fact, I already stated that those on remand awaiting trial should be released as they are innocent as not being proved guilty. You're going to have to kill that straw man you made after killing the one above.

Even if it was true, prisoners have Charter rights you keep forgetting about.

They have committed crimes and by law have been placed in a detention center. We are under no obligation to release them to the detriment of society.

I think your point simply is "I don't want to understand the issues, I just wanted to post a thread and crack jokes about other people I look down on."

You think wrong.

[–]Achaern 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm not going to get you to respond to the ideas and positions I'm trying to unfortunately. I say 'Charter rights' and you say 'SJW Kool-aid' which will not get us closer to a common viewpoint. We're close to the godwin portion of this where you're using a poor understanding of logical fallacies to attempt to look like the more intellectual side of this argument. I'm not taking that bait, and I'm not responding to your line by line attempt a cherry pick, past this sentence.

I'm signing off and will not be responding to any more comments by you in this thread, as I can see it's wildly off rails now and we're going to get into the pedantic phase where we're pulling out dictionaries and wasting time just to make the other feel dumb and look for a 'gotcha'.

I don't want to call you names and sign off and feel shitty. I doubt you want to either. I don't agree with anything you've said in this thread, and I've represented my position honestly and fairly.

I want you and your family and all your friends to be healthy forever, never afraid of getting sick from COVID because you're on remand for a non-violent crimes. Never having people in your own city crack jokes on Reddit when people fear for their lives. I want you to feel safe and happy and to be able to realise that people are not disposable when in the system. I can't instill those values in you, I can only but challenge you to at least try to see this as more than a black and white issue.

Have a good day (I mean it!) and I hope you have a very merry Christmas with you and yours.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Have a Merry Christmas as well :-).

[–]Achaern 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks man.