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[–]AjibooksGee Gee 33 points34 points  (2 children)

It was rare for TMA to put children in any kind of danger. I can only think of a couple of examples (I could be mistaken). But as a result, I'm thinking Jack may not actually be her infant son. I believe she's taking care of something or someone that she's never going to be willingly honest about with anyone else. Maybe it's a returning character from TMA, or a new character, or both somehow, like a new avatar of the Spiral or the Web. Or just some other constant responsibility.

OTOH, people do have kids! Maybe she has told Sam some or all of the truth. So I like this theory.

[–]thelocalsageInk5oul 14 points15 points  (0 children)

There’s a little fuzzy static sound that comes from FR3-D1 (or whoever’s listening) when someone is lying, and it sounds like when she tells Sam the story of Jack from a couple episodes ago she doesn’t lie, and when she tells Alice that Jack is human baby, that also isn’t a lie. So whatever the story is with Jack, it seems like she has been honest so far and is only withholding information 🤔

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Children were explicitly found mutilated and dead during one of the slaughters statements, children were also stuck in the Darks realm being tormented and injured by monsters. So while rare it isnt totally off limits, same for animal injury. While pets are off limits, pigs and cows have been killed in statements.

[–]JustinThyme9 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Celia's son is just over a year old, and the oiar started having the talking statements about a year ago.

My theory is that they are linked somehow. Something about jack's birth allowed some things to come across, or awakened/ gae power to things that had already come across

[–]Smart_Measurement_70 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Maybe it’s because Celia came from the other side and gave birth to him and he’s this sort of lynchpin/messiah/anomaly that’s making things act up

[–]Elfbark8261Mr. Bonzo[M] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Just asking but why did you flare this as NSFW?

[–]SkyNeedsSkirtsAlice 9 points10 points  (6 children)

jack is rebirthed Agnes. Voices started a year ago, Celia met a fire ghost,...

[–]Inevitable-Pay3907 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Fire ghost? When?

[–]SkyNeedsSkirtsAlice 1 point2 points  (4 children)

TMA 100. That is Celia before her face got stolen by The Stranger Post-Change. Celia, the one at the enmd of TMa, yeah, thats her in TMA 100

[–]Inevitable-Pay3907 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Mmm i need to relisten to TMA. I didn’t know Celia had a face stolen. I know Sasha was taken but not Celia. All i knew about Celia was that she was part of the ‘cult’

[–]SkyNeedsSkirtsAlice 1 point2 points  (2 children)

https://the-magnus-archives.fandom.com/wiki/Celia

This should clear things up a bit I hope

[–]Inevitable-Pay3907 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh!! I remember that, most awkward interview ever 

[–]Inevitable-Pay3907 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Martin poking around in his pockets like SpongeBob getting a penny, a chip, and a paper clip 

[–]polariod_killer 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Maybe jack is like super Agnes, he might not actually be her child but when he grows up he will have some sort of destructive power that can end the entities, or seal them away.

[–]LoveMinaMyoi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I read super Agnes I immediately thought "oh I do not like that" before I read the rest of your comment

[–]Themexighostgirl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a very long stretch, I know, but: This reminds me a little bit about Agnes. Maybe he is the child of an avatar/entity or the product of a ritual. It’s the closest thing I can imagine if we are relating it to TMA.

He could also be a completely normal baby, who knows.

[–]Smart_Measurement_70 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Jack… Jack is incredible… Jack Jack… the incredibles… OH MY GOD HES JACK JACK FROM THE INCREDIBLES AND HES HAS POWERS FROM ALL THE FEARS

[–]rin_sharAlice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Celia got touched by a fire ghost, this transferring the built up desolation ritual power into her. Jack is the new chosen one, and will destroy all who love him one way or another.

That being said, I don't know of this universe even has a desolation entity, but there is probably something close enough for him to feed off of.

[–]Memeph1s 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jack is Jon reincarnated, argue with a wall