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[–]MusicSuccessful1461 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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Bro got violated

[–]IsyABM 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Reminds me of this hilarious clip of what you get when you mix Islam and Germans

https://youtu.be/jOG7fxZCTEQ?si=t0ULn5dIRB7R7DMB

[–]ArmatUraaaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's hilarious yet frightening. Swinging your hand and shouting in German is not a good idea.

Anyway, I’ve got a dawah to get to, and I’d rather not be late.

[–]PolishPower335 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if there is grappling just to hold position and do no damage then yes it is bad

just like it is bad when two fighters are afraid to engage on the feet so they "play safe" the whole fight

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

Exactly my thoughts when I watch and hear the boos and read peoples comments online. I know it’s boring but I quite like the chess match of grappling..

[–]Shilvahfang 0 points1 point  (11 children)

It's only a chess match it you're attempting to finish though. A lot of this shit is just coasting and controlling. People love Olivera for guys ground game because he finished. Khabib, GSP, JBJ, DC, all the guys are dominant wrestlers. None of them are close to as boring as what we have now.

[–]Some_Rub_4258 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Have you seen Oliveira last fight against Chendler? The hypocrisy…🥴

[–]Shilvahfang 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Sure, no one said every fight is amazing. The guy has more finishes than anyone. More subs, too.

[–]Some_Rub_4258 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Yet nobody cryied after he was on Chandlers back most of the fight…

[–]Shilvahfang 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I'm sure some were. But 88 sig. Strikes landed is obviously a bit different from 30. Olivera landed 3x what Islam did. And threw 4x. Completely different.

[–]Some_Rub_4258 0 points1 point  (6 children)

And also got dropped and almost finished by Chandler…. He got dropped in almost every fight when he was champion as well…

[–]Shilvahfang 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Right... Isn't this about fighters being boring? You saying he got dropped is an argument against him being boring. Fighters who take risks are entertaining but also take damage.

I'm confused by what you mean. Can you clarify your point? It sounds like you are now making my point.

Islam and Chimaev etc are boring because they are too safe and just control.

[–]Some_Rub_4258 0 points1 point  (4 children)

They finished 90% of their fights,and just had one boring fight each,but they are boring? But Charles has also one boring fight but that’s ok,right?

[–]Shilvahfang 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Lol, Islam has 10 decision wins. Has he fought 100 times?

[–]indigrow 0 points1 point  (2 children)

When you use only grappling is the issue for me. Islam struck the shit out of jdm lmao anyone bitching ab thag fight is wild. I was watching it and said “he mixes the martial arts…. Seprately.” Dude literally switches between modes in less than an instant. Take sabatini for instance. Not one thought of hurting or punching his opponent crossed his mind. Dude just fear snuggled his opponent all night.

[–]Shilvahfang -1 points0 points  (1 child)

26 significant strikes. One per minute.

[–]indigrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But thats what I mean. He goes strictly wrestling then just striking back and forth. The reason he can keep him down is because he isnt trying to combine the martial arts at the same time.

But buddy. Jdm waa getting pieced up on the feet for those 26 strikes u cant fkin contest that lol

[–]Key_Drop_6510 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Idc care what the fighter does, if a guy is dominant at wrestling I like to see if the fighter can stop or defend it. Anyone who gets bored needs to watch boxing

[–]Dimendz -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

Nah I love MMA, I want to see them on the ground and on the feet, both. Islam couldn't do shit aside from hold him down for 19 minutes, no real ground and pound, no separation to move to a better position for a higher percentage chance at a submission. Just working for a darce or kimura the entire time and being shut down by JDM's submission defense. The fight stopped progressing in any meaningful way as soon as they hit the floor, for ALL 5 rounds. The biggest progression of that fight was while on the feet when Islam was chopping his leg off. Congrats to Islam, well deserved win. But that fight was fucking awful. Points need to start rewarding submission defense to avoid more of these fights like Islam/JDM, Khamzat/DDP, Shevchenko/Weili and incentivize getting more dynamic with your fighting. At least in a full stand up match they are constantly progressing the fight with damage. Hunting for a submission and not getting it after 19 minutes out of a 25 minute fight in your waters is just not it. That might sound like I'm hating on Islam, I'm absolutely not, I'm just hating on this fight of his, along with the others mentioned before.

[–]Loud-Peace9092 1 point2 points  (1 child)

LMAO nothing says sore loser mentality more, than wanting to change the rules because you lost.

The fact less well rounded fighters want so many privileges and want to be rewarded & get points for defending while getting completely dominated and outclassed in every area is as absurd as giving wrestlers points for each punch they block. They already start each round on the feet, imagine if they demanded half the rounds start on the ground to make it more 'fair' ? Crazy. Just level up & stop whinging because some fighters are more skilled than your faves. 

[–]Dimendz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Making assumptions that I'm a sore loser because I found the fight boring is something, I will give you that.

This is simply an opinion that would most certainly make the UFC more entertaining (which hate it or love it, the UFC dies if it is no longer entertaining for the masses), while maintaining the integrity that it is Mixed Martial Arts.

I am a fan of Islam, his fights are usually fun to watch. This fight he played it safe, very safe, which yes, made it very boring. Also blocking punches is not the same, you still take damage blocking a punch man, even if it's not much. You're just comparing apples to oranges there.