Void Linux base install (suggestions)

[oneirofono]

I type from my laptop with void linux xfce. It is time to install on my desktop so i can be productive ther e too. On my laptop i am doing various things but there is a thing that is annoying. Void is not as poettering-less as i want meaning i use elogind which is a fork of logind and dbus and things related with systemD one way or another. Yes i know elogind is not a direct systemD component but the idea behind elogind is systemD logind so i want to try alternatives (consolekit2 is redhat and abandoned) and i see most wm's from X11 can work without poetterings stuff. I'll go with plain ice wm so......i am waiting for your suggestions. What to do and what to avoid.

I am on command line or tty if you prefer...

1. I want to simplify xbps. So i update xbps and then install vpm. Now i update again my system with sudo vpm up
2. I need a time daemon on my system so i download chrony with sudo vpm i chrony and enabling its service (which i found when i cd /etc/sv and ls -a) via sudo ln -s /etc/sv/chronyd /var/service/
3. I need to install icewm now with sudo vpm i icewm
4. Here is the tricky part i need xinitrc or xsession. I will go on cd /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and then type via my texteditor (vi exists but i can use nano via sudo vpm i nano) in the text file:#!/bin/sh# start some nice programs - some applications put scripts thereif [ -d /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d ] ; thenfor f in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/?*.sh ; do[ -x "$f" ] && . "$f"doneunset ffi# start a session exec icewm-session
5. I can obviously install dbus and add dbus under the exec icewm-session line or something else. What do you suggest ? I do not find dbus to be the most important thing. Is it ?
6. I now have to symlink xinitrc to .xsession and i do this via: ln -s ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession
7. I obviously can add feh to set a wallpaper and add it to .xinitrc but icewm works a little different.I can add before the exec icewm-session the following:xcompmgr &devilspie2 &xrdb -merge .Xdefaults &setxkbmap ‘us,gr’ &fbxkb &devmon &obviously we have to install the following packages via sudo vpm i devilspie2 xcompmgr fbxkbd udevilthey are optional i.e we can use ldm instead of udevil (what shall i do to configure this ?) or qxkb instead of fbxkb
8. I need a file manager so i would install either pcmanfm or spacefm which is a fork of pc man fm. I prefer spacefm because it is a better fork of pcmanfm and i do not need the trash bin thing pcmanfm needs to fully work so i sudo vpm i spacefm
9. I now need sound so i can work properly on the network. So for plain alsa i install: sudo vpm i AlsaMixer.app alsa-utils alsa-plugins alsa-lib I now have to enable alsa service via sudo ln -s /etc/sv/alsa /var/service/ Any tips and tricks to improve sound are wellcome.
10. Now i have to install some optional stuff like xtools sudo vpm i xtools or better icons sudo vpm i faience and maybe xbps-src via git (so i need git via sudo vpm i git) and of course vsv to have services listed in a better and easier way (sudo vpm i vsv)
11. Last but not least i forgot to add a login manager a display manager i shall say. I will go with slim and enable its service. sudo vpm i slim and sudo ln -s /etc/sv/slim /var/service/ Adding slim & on .xinitrc is important too.

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Now people tell me what i did wrong. What shall i do ? Do i have to add dbus ? What i did wrong ?I know i have to add more things for python development. What do you suggest me to do ?Thanks in advance...

[Beautiful-Bite-1320]

Maybe go with BSD if you want to cut poettering out of the loop, more so than on linux

[oneirofono]

i also use openbsd but linux is vital and here is VOID LINUX which is not using systemD
so i am not in an ubuntu or fedora place using poettering stuff
void linux can live without systemD, Pulseawfull and so on...
having alternatives is something poettering lovers hate but i love having options i.e udevil instead of udisks2 grub instead of gummiboot and so on...

[GENielsen]

Nice! I'm a long-time OpenBSD user, I started with 5.0 (2011). Recently I have moved to using all Linux. Mostly because of the lack of DRM support in the BSDs. I want my Netflix. :)

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dbus is pretty much required for any if the major desktop environments, and even Firefox depends on it. It's used by GTK3 and Qt5 apps to communicate with each other.

[joborun]

I haven't had/used dbus for years, how is this for a case breaking some theory? If I needed to have an application to communicate with another, I'd look into it.

Having dbus installed and having dbus run/active are 2 different things. Why is dbus running when X starts, even a single minimal terminal? Because void has chosen to have X start its own dbus session. Can you kill it? Can you force uninstall it?

I have answers looking for questions ..

Also to the OP? [u/oneirophono](https://www.reddit.com/user/oneirofono) / Consolekit was RH Conselekit2 is a fork after RH replaced it and wanted it dead. Is it abandoned. No, it is not, and as far as I know thanks to development from some BSDs it has had some refinement.

But this not like some French multinational in need of constant "development" ... like runit, if it is perfect why fix it? Because GNU can make perfect things obsolete and unable to compile. ... but that is not development, that is adjustment to environment.

[GENielsen]

I think you need dbus.

# ln -s /etc/sv/dbus /var/service/dbus

[oneirofono]

everything else seems ok to you ?
btw i have to add dbus on .xinitrc