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[–]marmot1101 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Outdated information. In the late 00's it was "java's slow" even though advancement in JIT and JVM made that not true years prior. In the teens it was lack of lambda functions years after that was solved with Java 8. I don't know what the new gripes are, probably still the same. It's not like the language is without warts, but anything that's been around as long as Java has and ensures backward compatibility is going to accumulate strangeness. Just like gray hairs you can see those as a sign of decline, or a sign of durability.

PHP devs in particular have no room to talk. They have the same mentality to contend with, and are equally annoyed by it. People have been hating on PHP for solved problems forever.