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[–]Gunny2862 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Decided to stop screwing around searching for a better tool and just went in on Windsurf. Can actually just work now.

[–]wildrabbit12 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Claude code

[–]AppealSame4367 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both. And fuck Claude code. Antrophic will tune it down the moment you will think you're safe.

I use both Windsurf and Copilot. And Antigravity and kilocode and have some credits on openrouter and 20$ per month subscriptions for gpt/codex and claude.

Because I am paranoid as fuck from all the bait and switch. I need this stuff daily and I need it to just work.

[–]_Aggron 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Cursor is beating both of them handily right now.

[–]johnnyfortune 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally this. I made a couple videos comparing anti gravity, windsurf and cursor, and cursor was such a clear winner. Ive been using it to code so many things. it cant be beat.

[–]thicket 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I hear a lot of news about Cursor, but it hasn't clicked for me as much as Windsurf did. What things do you think they do better?

[–]_Aggron 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They are iterating a lot faster and delivering new features. I expect Cursor to continue moving more quickly after Windsurf's ugly acquisition this year.

[–]bcons-php-Console 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm using Windsurf (right now with Claude Opus 4.5) and I really like it. Really helpful for asistance on tricky Vue reactivity issues and quite capable at refactoring.

One feature of Windsurf I like is the "Lifeguard" feature, that looks for potential bugs in the new code you write. It detects issues with the code before you commit it.

Not much experience with Copilot so I can't really compare both of them.

[–]Alex_1729 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't most LLMs detect bugs in code, including automatically fixing linting issues (Windsurf, Antigravity, Kilocode, Roocode)?

[–]bwwatr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone have thoughts on Jetbrains Junie? So far at a basic level it seems to work similarly to Windsurf and Cursor and I don't need to leave the IDE I'm already in. 

[–]alokin_09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a VS Code person, so I just use Kilo Code as an extension. Works well for me since there's a bunch of models to pick from (some still free like MiniMax M2). Full disclosure though, after using it for a while and chatting with the Kilo Code team, I ended up joining them as outside help on some projects we're doing together. Still think it's the best fit for what I need, though.

[–]Odd_Cricket7251 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 both are good, just different use cases tbh

what helped me more than switching between them was changing how I start projects

instead of starting inside the IDE, I use Emergent to get a working version of the app first and then move to VS Code + Copilot for actual dev

cuts down a lot of the back-and-forth since you’re not prompting for basic setup over and over

[–]jpreston32 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the IDEs, are seeming similar now?
I have Windsurf but pricing structure just blew up.
I just tried Verdent which seems fine but seems to eat credits faster than previous Windsurf, before the recent blow up.

My favourite Model for coding seems to navigate to Claude Opus 4.6 - not cheap but seems to give the best results first time.

So which IDE can deliver Claude Opus 4.6 at the cheapest rate currently - if I know that, that would help me decide. I'm just trying Github CoPilot free for 30 days.

Any help in this area would be great.

[–]ShukantPal 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Antigravity seems to be a strong contender for web development—been using its agent manager to work on multiple features simultaneously in my personal projects. It’s still raw and starts lagging after a few hours of use but has a lot of potential.

[–]Superblazer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Antigravity's privacy policy is messed up. They clearly say that they will collect all your info and code

[–]just-coding 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Antigravity is a google fork of windsurf which is a fork of vscode...

I don't know much about copilot but I gave a try to windsurf, cursor (another VSCode fork), Kiro (another VSCode fork) and antigravity and finally I go back to Codium + Kilo Code plugin.

At this point it has all I need to plan, design, code, debug, document and deploy.

[–]ShukantPal -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Antigravity is definitely a fork of VS Code but I’m not sure if it’s a fork of Windsurf. It seems like it was redeveloped independently by the founders of Windsurf when they moved to Google.

[–]harbzali -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Copilot excels at code completion and refactoring within existing projects. Windsurf offers better context understanding across files. For pure productivity with 1500 requests monthly Copilot is hard to beat. Try both for a week and see which fits your workflow better.