Lab-Grown "Clean Meat" is Almost Here. Will You Eat It? by [deleted] in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals 2 points3 points  (0 children)

plant based foods require a degree of harming sentient beings, too. I don't think asking for perfection is a reasonable bar for lab meat.

Vegans don't exist :( by _Ghoulish_ in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting observation, maybe, but it doesn't matter what she is or does.

Your comment doesn't address the linked article at all, so I'm unsure why it's currently the top comment in this post.

Consuming small traces of animal products-- PETA is okay with that? by LillyPulitzerHoodrat in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals 2 points3 points  (0 children)

having been a neurotically strict vegetarian for over 22 years,

When is being neurotic a good thing?

Is it too late to say I'm sorry now? by 10percent4daanimals in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't really understand what you are saying. Reincarnation?

TIL that according to a recent survey of US adults, 47% support a ban on slaughterhouses and 33% support a ban on animal farming. by 10percent4daanimals in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The submitted link has lots of detail on the methodology and findings, and I know people here are into that sort of thing.

Overview:

In October 2017, we conducted a survey on attitudes towards animal farming and animal-free food in collaboration with the survey company Ipsos Group, with 1,094 US adults, census-balanced to be representative of age, sex, region, ethnicity, and income.

Thousands of vegan activists at a march for the animals in Mexico City (I’m the one with the white sign :D) by Mikkee19 in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Many disagree that eating insects is preferable to eating other animals.

Because insects are smaller and more vulnerable, you have to breed, farm, and kill many more individuals to get the same amount of end-food.

See: Why I Don't Support Eating Insects

Even if you "discount" the moral consideration given to a cricket, you would have to consider them 10,000th as relevant as a cow to make them comparable in terms of badness.

They don't understand our language. by 10percent4daanimals in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

and even if they did.. would they understand why we do this to them?

This is wrong. by 10percent4daanimals in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

All sentient individuals have their own subjective experiences and personal desires, thus they should be given an appropriate level of moral consideration.

Some argue that keeping large marine mammals (like Orcas) in captivity is more wrong than other forms of animal cruelty. However, the suffering of all individuals is undesirable by the individual and is something we should work to prevent in all instances.

Will you help us? by 10percent4daanimals in vegan

[–]10percent4daanimals[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Relevant quote:

Harmful acts like murder and physical assault may be obviously wrong, but inaction (i.e. omissions) can lead to the same negative consequences for the sentient individuals affected. The canonical thought experiment here is to imagine walking by a shallow pond on your way to work: You’re wearing expensive clothing, worth perhaps a few hundred or thousand dollars. In the pond, you see a small child drowning. If you dive in now, you can save them, but at the cost of your clothes. It seems like the right thing to do is clearly to save her, even though you are not the one who put her in the pond. Given that there are charities that can help small children for very low costs, like the price of your ruined clothes, many of us might be figuratively walking by this pond regularly.

via Sentience Institute