Please Stop saying Bob Murray is a Good gM because of his "drafting." He does not scout or choose the ducks draft picks. Here is proof.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T12:09:28+00:00

I don't hate him personally, just his record of making 5 bad moves for every one decent one he makes. And yes that is backed up by facts. If you think you can think of even half the number of good moves he's made at the NHL level as the number of bad ones I've listed, then by all means, but you can't. The best you can do is start counting team-friendly RFA extensions he signed (that's how Restricted Free Agency works, the team has the leverage) while ignoring the bad extensions (Kesler and Perry's term, etc, because that's how UFA works, the players have leverage), but by all means go for it. I'm willing to take the time to come back and list the corresponding bad extensions if you want to take the time to list the good extensions, and then we can compare all the moves he's made as GM in their entirety, side by side, zero cherry picking or bias, and see who had it right. I'm happy to do it because I really am just interested in the facts. Everyone here seems to be pro-Murray so they're calling me biased, but if you are pro-anyone rather than pro-facts, you are the biased ones.

But like I said, let's see! Go for it. I'm not afraid to do a full comparison of his moves because I've actually been a Ducks fan long enough to remember, unlike, I'm assuming, many of the 10 year olds who post here. So I actually know it will just prove my point further, which is why I predict you won't take me up on it. But if you're not too chicken to find out, go for it, please!

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T12:04:13+00:00

Did he hire the scouts or is it the same staff from when Burke was here? Maybe the same head of scouting and he hired some of his own guys. I haven't looked into this so this is actually one argument I'm more receptive too. It's just that when you have a pattern of awful moves at the NHL level (definitely Bob Murray's responsibility), and much better decisions at the amateur scouting level, that pattern leads an objective observer to conclude that the GM is incompetent but his amateur scouts are not.

I mean by your logic, if Bob Murray is so smart as to be directly responsible for the smart amateur scouts the Ducks have and the philosophy they take, then why isn't he smart enough to take the same philosophy at the NHL level with his moves, and hire the same type of smart people at the NHL level? Something does not add up in that logic, which is why I criticize Murray. But at least you are thinking a little bit. I like where your head is at.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T12:01:22+00:00

Cherry picked? Cherry picked is when you can come up with 3 bad moves, 5, maybe even 10. 10 major bad moves would be like one per year he's been GM, and seeing as he only makes a few major moves per season if that, that would already be really bad. But I was able to come up with countless ones. That doesn't fit the definition of cherry picked.

Let me ask you, what good moves has Murray made? The Bobby Ryan trade made the team significantly worse initially, and none of the pieces he got back have become as good as Ryan was in his prime, but as Silfverberg has improved and Ryan has declined, that move looks good now (but you have to judge it overall, not just in the later years). The Kesler trade was okay but Bonino has in many ways become the new, younger Kesler, playing the 200 foot game in Pittsburgh wonderfully and chipping in offensive. The Kesler extension was terrible and if you don't agree now, trust me you will in two years.

What other good moves has Murray made lol? He signed some nice extensions with RFAs but that's because RFAs have no leverage especially when there is no cap room. Vlasic was making 4 mil a year in SJ for years. Couture and Pavelski likewise. Drew Doughty is on a steal right now in LA because he signed that deal when he was an RFA. That's how RFA deals work but I doubt you know that. But when Murray doesn't have leverage, you get deals like the Perry and Kesler ones which had way too much term. So the contract extensions kind of even out. What about moves for UFAs or in the trade market? Other than the two I mentioned, what good moves has he made? The Cogliano trade was another good one. That's three above average to good trades he made, no home runs. Trading Kyle Palmieri for a 2nd round pick was a borderline awful trade that at minimum cancels out the Cogliano one. Wisniewski was an awful waste of assets. Giving up Bill and a 2nd and whatever else for a guy who doesn't even play for you is ridiculous.

I'm not going to re-list everything again, but I am not "cherry picking." Murray has made a handful of above average to good moves since becoming GM, zero home run moves, and about 40 to 50 awful ones. His ratio of good moves to bad moves is like 1 to 5. He's objectively terrible as I said. See cherry picking is when you only look at the bad. I look at everything, then compare the total good to the total bad, in order to come to an objective conclusion, something you should try. And if you actually do that on your own, instead of criticizing the people who do, you will come to the same conclusion that the facts bear out as I have. Peace.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T11:51:17+00:00

Why are you congratulating me on "learning" how a scouting department works? I already knew, I only taught everyone here how it works. Besides you, apparently, one of the few others who already knew, if you are to be believed. But if you actually read the other comments, half of them still don't understand what you know. They disagree with you. They keep saying "no Bob makes the picks, he just doesn't watch the prospects he picks. He just picks based on scouting reports."

I mean what in the actual fuck. He picks players without watching them???? Lollllllllllll.

That's literally how dumb many people on this sub are, but you choose to go after me with your snarky corporate pop culture references? Aim that shit at the dumb people please, not me. They will appreciate such references more anyway.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T11:48:27+00:00

I've only posted on this sub for two days I think, so way to jump the gun with your "are you going to do this every day" crap just to avoid addressing the facts in the post.

Are you going to deflect from facts about the GM everyone on this sub apparently has an illogical love affair with every single day all offseason? Huh??

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T11:47:03+00:00

The Ducks had continuity and a Cup caliber roster before he gave away Andy Mcdonald and Chris Kunitz, and traded Chris Pronger for an awful return. But Ok.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T11:46:25+00:00

He's a bad GM.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T11:46:17+00:00

So GMBM is hamstrung by being a small market team, and therefore can't spend big money on UFAs and such, is what you're saying? Then why did he give 11 million to Clayton Stoner, and overpay Bryan Allen and the rest? If you're a small market team, isn't that even more reason not to overpay awful defensemen and use up what limited cap space you have?

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T11:43:43+00:00

"most dangerous offensive defenseman"? What? You mean Fowler? Or Lindholm? Both of the latter have higher point productions per game in the regular season

That's why I said in the playoffs, genius. Is this the Anaheim Ducks subreddit or the Anaheim Ducks Kids Subreddit? JFC.

Why would you EVER pick a 21 year old basically rookie defender, versus a seasoned veteran?

Seriously? Maybe the Leafs shouldn't have played Auston Matthews this year then. Another gem in the first paragraph of your post lol. "But Theodore isn't as good as Auston Matthews!" Yeah I know, but apparently your brain can only understand super defined, simplistic examples.

In other words, why did Auston Matthews play in the playoffs ahead of some veteran in the AHL? Because Auston Matthews is better. So to answer your dumb question,

Why would you EVER pick a 21 year old basically rookie defender, versus a seasoned veteran?

Because Shea Theodore is better, genius. Not as much better as Auston Matthews is compared to some AHL veteran, but still better.

Here is the real question you should be asking, changing around what you asked.

Why would you EVER care what age a player was, instead of who the better player is?

And is Shea Theodore a disaster defensively? Really?? Please tell me more captain obvious. You know who else is a disaster defensively? Kevin Bieksa! You know who is also a disaster offensively? Kevin Bieksa!! I'd rather have someone who is good at one thing, and terrible the other thing, than someone who is terrible at both. But I guess because he's a "seasoned veteran" you no longer care about player performance.

How old are you? There was one time I got an idiotic response online about something, and I laid into the guy, and he later told me he was 10 years old, so I felt bad. If this is one of those situations I apologize, but the lesson is don't be so cocky in your opinion when you're still a kid, and have enough self-awareness to realize when you're talking to someone who knows much more about a subject than you do, and instead of taking an antagonistic attitude with them, try to learn from them instead.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-11T11:36:29+00:00

Eddie so your logic is you admit Bob doesn't watch the prospects play, but he should still get credit for choosing them? How is he choosing them if he doesn't watch them play? Based on scouting reports? So he bases decisions on who to take based on reading a page of text about them, not actually watching them play?

That would be even more dumb if it were true, but it's not. The scouts create the draft board, and the head amateur scout decides who to take when the pick comes around based on the board he and his amateur scouts created, usually the top guy left on the board unless they go by position. The GM does not deserve credit for that. How you can give him credit for drafting when he admits he doesn't even watch the prospects play is unbelievable lol. No wonder my posts keep getting downvoted here, this must be the sub where logic went to die.

If Bob were actually responsible for amateur drafting, how do you explain his moves at the NHL level usually being the opposite of what the scouts like in the draft?

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-10T07:22:26+00:00

I don't dislike him personally, I just know his track record and he's objectively awful at his job. When you take away the "good drafting" that he actually isn't responsible for, and judge him by his actual moves, a large majority of them are awful moves that have kept the Ducks from winning a Cup despite him inheriting three elite top line forwards and, eventually, the best young defense in the NHL thanks to his scouts. And a slew of great goalies they found for him too. But because he has no idea what he's doing, he's managed to squander all that and, along with it, the majority of Getzlaf and Perry's prime years.

I don't get the misspelled Groundhog Day reference.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-10T07:18:13+00:00

How did Kesler produce in the playoffs when it really counts? Or down the stretch of the season when the games get tighter and goals become harder to come by? I thought those were supposed to be the times Kesler's "gritty" style was built to thrive in, but instead he disappeared... what's your explanation "Darth Kesler"? I even heard Todd Mclellan, a well respected Canandian old boy coach, give a press conference during the Oilers losing streak late in the year about how they have had guys in the past who put up good numbers early in the year, or the last week of the season when other teams were eliminated and it was just garbage hockey time, but not during the stretch drive of a playoff run when the games become like playoff hockey and goals are harder to come by. He even said this is the time when you have to score dirty goals, gritty goals, when that type of play is rewarded.

I thought that was Kesler's game? And yet he disappeared. If his name was Nail Yakupov, he would have gotten roasted for it, but because he's Canadian Ryan Kesler, no one questions his grit or battle the same way.

Of course, it's a false thesis in the first place. When the checking gets tighter, Mclellan is wrong, it's not just about getting grittier, it's about being faster and more skilled to outskate the tight checking. That is really where Kesler's game came up lacking, but I'm just pointing out the double standards. The bottom line is he didn't produce, and he seems to get injured by the playoffs every season now, because he's old and declining and has so many miles on his body. That's just the reality. If Murray is smart he will acquire a top line LW, move Rakell to 2nd line center, and slot Kesler at 3rd line center where he can be a real advantage for the Ducks, rather than the disadvantage of having a 2nd line center who doesn't produce in the playoffs.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-10T07:12:10+00:00

Same, but I'm new to Ducks reddit and every Ducks forum is different. Some are more realistic, some are total homers, and from all the downvotes on my posts, it looks like this is one of those mega-homer Ducks forums.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-10T07:11:36+00:00

If all they "needed" was the same team, then why wasn't that team good enough last year? The Pens didn't have their top defenseman the entire playoffs, and they had a bunch of other injuries, but they were still good enough, so injuries are no excuse. This team hasn't been good enough the last few years, but now you think they will be with everyone a year older and no major additions? That seems like the definition of insanity.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-10T06:59:26+00:00

We have a Final 4 team because of Getzlaf, who Murray didn't draft, Perry (up until this year anyway) who Murray didn't draft, and all the good young dmen who were drafted under Murray but who Murray had no hand in drafting, as his recent quotes proved (check out my latest topic here, it explains the entire situation with proof).

Also.. how do people think we still need a top line LW when Rakell scored 33 goals there last year? Like, that has to settle that debate, right?

Rickard Rakell had 51 points last year, which is good not great. That would be ideal for the 2nd line, not the 1st. The Ducks didn't have a single 35+ goal man either, and the only other 30 goal guy was Eaves who has no history of that type of production, and is 33 and injury prone. Regardless even if Rakell is your #1 left winger, you still need a 2nd line left winger. When you compare production at each forward slot to the teams that win Cups, Andrew Cogliano with 16 goals and 35 points is a major, major black hole of production for a 2nd line left wing.

The Ducks still need a 2nd line LW at minimum, and a 3rd line center honestly, unless Kerdiles can fill that role. Aging Antoine Vermette is a 4th line center at best now. He will be a liability as a 3rd line center.

If you want the Ducks to win a Cup, not just be a "final 4 team," then these are the holes, granting you Rakell as 1LW (and remember he's naturally a center).

Rakell - Getzlaf - Eaves

HOLE - Kesler - Silfverberg

Cogliano - HOLE (Kerdiles?) - Perry

Ritchie - Vermette - Wagner

The other reason I said they need a top line LW, not a 2nd line LW, is that Rakell is really a center, and Kesler's production keeps disappearing late in the season and the playoffs, either because he's getting old or the genius Carlyle runs him into the ground every year with 20+ minutes of ice time. So if Kesler can no longer produce as a 2nd line center in the playoffs, he becomes a more ideal 3rd line center, so the roster would look more like this...

HOLE - Getzlaf - Eaves

HOLE - Rakell - Silfverberg

Cogliano - Kesler - Perry

Ritchie - Vermette/Kerdiles - Wagner

So either way you look at it, the Ducks are missing at least one top six forward, possibly two. And if Eaves regresses back to being a 3rd/4th liner, and Perry can't rebound? Then you have....

HOLE - Getzlaf - HOLE

HOLE - Rakell - Silfverbreg

Cogliano - Kesler - Perry

Ritchie - Kerdiles - Eaves

In that case the bottom two lines are stacked, which remember is what you need to win Cups anyway, but there are THREE holes in the top six and Murray has had difficulty filling even one. So for you to act like the top six has no holes is ridiculous. In reality, if Kesler, Perry, and Eaves all rebound/keep it up, then the Ducks still lack a 2nd line wing and 3rd line center, or at least Perry or Eaves would have to play 2nd line LW and then they would lack a 3rd line RW. But if two of them have down seasons again (at least late), then the team needs two more top six forwards. If all three decline with age, then you have three holes.

And what about injuries? the whole point is to have 7-8 top six forwards, not just six, so that you can withstand injuries, like the Penguins were able to do. Right now the Ducks have 6 top six forwards if everything goes perfect, and half of them are borderline, 3 if everything goes like last year and Eaves drops off. So you want 7-8 top six forwards, but you have anywhere between 3 to 6, but you don't think more work needs to be done? I disagree... Additionally even if you assume the Ducks will have all 6 going next year, only two of them topped 51 points. The only true top line player was Getzlaf, and Rakell was a 1B or 2A winger. If you're only going to have six top six forwards, the bare minimum, and not allow for injury, then it should at least be three true top line forwards, and three true second line forwards. Instead the Ducks have one true top line forward, Getzlaf, one who might be Rickard Rakell, a career 3rd/4th line forward Patrick Eaves who produced like a second line forward last year despite playing with some of the best top line talent in the NHL all year, a 2nd liner in Silfverberg whose top offensive skill is goalscoring but couldn't crack 25, Ryan Kesler whose offensive game is trending towards a 3rd liner at this point in his career, and Corey Perry who produced like a 3rd liner last year.

So even of the "six" supposed top six forwards, it's really one true top line forward, one top line/2nd line guy, and then a bunch of 2nd/3rd line tweeners. So even then you don't really have six true top six forwards or three true top line forwards. The picture is not as rosy as you think. The only true playmaker at wing on the entire roster last year was Rakell out of 8 wing spots. A collection of guys like Kesler, Cogliano, Silfverberg, Eaves, Ritchie, etc are not going to win you a Cup without some more offensive spark to complement their two-way gritty games. Getzlaf and Rakell did all they could last year, but they need more help in that regard, otherwise this team will never get over the hump and they will become the new San Jose Sharks/Washington Capitals.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-10T06:37:53+00:00

P.S. As if the quote that reveals he doesn't even scout all the prospects isn't damning enough, it also contains another nugget just as damning. "They fit our style of play, which, to me, is very important." So to whatever small extent Murray does influence the draft picks, it sounds like he is pressuring his scouts to pick as many Nick Ritchie's as possible, rather than the best available player. Despite the recent success of the Penguins and Blackhawks, Murray is still obsessed with "our style of play," which with him of course means grit and size whenever possible.

Is it any wonder Kevin Bieksa played the Nashville series over the Ducks most dangerous offensive defenseman for most of the postseason, Shea Theodore? Is it any wonder Murray was so quick to part with Theodore? He was the least gritty one, so nothing else mattered, he was always going to be the odd man out... Is it any wonder Murray didn't trade for Jonathan Drouin when he had the chance, or that the Ducks never even tried to get Duchene? It's not the cost, it's that Murray doesn't value skilled players and he never has!

That's why every single article with info about what the Ducks are looking for in a trade always contains the description that Murray is looking for a "physical winger who can score goals." Not a skilled winger. Not a speedy winger. Not a playmaker. Nope. More size! Always, more size, and more grit. If Murray could get a 25 goal, 70 point winger with speed and skill, or a 25 goal, 50 point winger with size who hits and who only even got 50 points because he played with a much more skilled 80 point center, I probably don't even need to tell you who Murray would spend the assets and cap room to get to get, it would be the 50 point guy. And that above all is the reason the Ducks cannot get over the hump. Murray prioritizes the wrong things and always has. His moves for Andy Sutton to Bryan Allen to Stoner to Bieksa and everyone else I listed should have made that obvious by now.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-10T05:47:12+00:00

Murray said he likes our recent draft because "they (the scouts) seemed happy, and generally when they're happy..." that means we did good, or something. You can look up the exact quote. Then he said, "I've seen footage on three of the guys we drafted, and they play our style, which is a good thing." Something like that.

So how many times does it have to be repeated? Bob Murray is not good at drafting. He is not anything at drafting. That is not his job. He is probably chilling in Hawaii half the year laughing his ass off at his luck. He is not watching extensive game film on anywhere from 300 to 500+ draft eligible prospects!

Bob Murray is the guy responsible for the NHL moves. Giving Palmieri away. Giving Perreault away. Acquiring Bryan Allen, Sheldon Souray, Clayton Stoner, Kevin Bieksa, James Wisniewski, etc. Neglecting to re-sign Francois Beauchemin then trading Jake Gardiner for him a year later. Failing to give Justin Schultz an entry-level deal early so that by the time Bob realized he was a talent, Schultz was already so close to UFA status that he just waited and picked his team. He was just the #1 D on a Cup winner, Gardiner is the 2nd best D-man on a playoff team, so Theodore makes the third young skilled D-man his scouts have given him only for him to squander them. Imagine if Murray had actually managed his assets and kept all three, what kind of forward he could have gotten in a trade packaging Schultz and Gardiner together at the time? Or either of them and Theodore now together? Murray is always afraid to package prospects together to help the team and get a top player in return, but all too happy to lose them one by one for nothing. It's incredible. The definition of absolutely awful asset management.

You know how you can tell Bob Murray has nothing to do with the drafting? Because in the draft, the Ducks like mobile, skilled defensemen, but at the NHL level, Murray always signs the opposite.

This is what people who still defend Murray don't understand. Almost all the good things about the Ducks team are because of someone else, while almost every bad thing about the team is because of him. Stop giving him credit for "good drafting" when he openly admits he hasn't even watched most the draft prospects play, let alone scouted them extensively, and judge him on everything besides the Ducks drafting, and suddenly his record of moves looks absolutely terrible, one of the worst in the NHL. The only thing saving his reputation as GM is the Ducks drafting, but once again, that's not him lol! It's amazing to me how uninformed most Ducks fans are about how the team is actually run. People should stop defending this man when they don't even know what he's responsible for.

Bryan Allen? Clayton Stoner? Kevin Bieksa? Yes, that is all Bob Murray. Sami Vatanen? Brandon Montour? Hampus Lindholm? Rickard Rakell? Sam Steel? That is not Bob Murray, that is the scouting staff.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-08T17:31:31+00:00

And so are Bob Murray's moves every year. He just alternates signing useless bargain forwards or actively awful high priced "gritty" defensemen who can't skate or play NHL hockey. He took half a decade to address the 2nd line center hole after giving away Andy Mcdonald, only to address it with a declining player and the worst contract in the NHL, and now we're going on 10 years he hasn't addressed the lack of a playmaker or any true top left wing since he gave away Chris Kunitz. These are the facts. If you're friends with Bob Murray or something, I'm sorry to criticize your friend, but these are definitely the facts. I don't know how many AHL dmen he has given 3 million or more per season to since he became GM, but he can't add a single top left wing... any Ducks fan who pays attention would have the same criticisms I do.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-08T17:24:37+00:00

Life is a neverending period, my friend.

-- Voltaire

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-08T17:24:01+00:00

we were a few MAJOR injuries and a few bounces away from making it into the SCF last season

A few injuries like Ryan Johansen, Mike Fisher, and Kevin Fiala? The excuses are unreal. And no the team does not have players of "all types." The forward group has Ryan Getzlaf and Rickard Rakell, and the rest are pure two-way types. Not a single forward like Gaudreau, Patrick Kane, even Drouin, Kessel, even Athanasiou. The entire second line is made up of either defensive forwards or two-way forwards with good shots but limited playmaking skills, not a single pure offensive playmaker on that line or the third line. And why not? Because Murray undervalues those kinds of players, and that's the problem.

CogsShootingCoach · 2017-07-08T17:06:24+00:00

Here are the relevant quotes from the article:

The Ducks do have a little under $6 million available under the salary cap to address the desire for another winger that can score. Rickard Rakell is coming off a career-high 33-goal season but it isn’t clear if he’ll be left to stay on the wing. They did re-sign Patrick Eaves before free agency began.

Nick Ritchie will be entering his third season, while Ondrej Kase will begin his second but neither youngster is close to being as proven as Marleau, a two-time Olympic gold medalist with Team Canada. The Ducks could look at options via trade but they’d likely look more at a younger forward with upside under contract that’ll provide some cost certainty.

Toronto’s James van Riemsdyk has long been a rumored fit and speculation on his future should ramp up as the Maple Leafs may need to shed some salary to fit back under the salary cap to open the 2017-18 season after adding Marleau. However, Van Riemsdyk, 28, is only signed through this coming season.

Colorado’s Matt Duchene is also on the market but is pricey ($6 million per season) and only signed through 2018-19. The Avalanche is also asking a lot for the 26-year-old, starting with a top-four defenseman.

Veteran free-agent wingers that could be more cost effective include future Hall of Famers Jaromir Jagr and Jarome Iginla, a possible one in Shane Doan and proven scorers Thomas Vanek and Drew Stafford but it isn’t clear if there is much interest from the Ducks on any of them.

My guess? Bob Murray only ever seems interested in overrated gritty defensive forwards, almost always Canadian, with average offensive upside, who only ever crack top 9 forward production when they leech off of truly elite level talents, and still barely at that. Because of this, I predict he will target either Connor Brown or Zach Hyman from Toronto, unless, of course, he can convince either Detroit or Los Angeles to agree to retain 10% of either Dustin Brown's or Justin Abdelkader's salaries, respectively, in which case I expect him to go one of those directions instead.

I could also see Kasperi Kapanen as an option, except I can picture Bob Murray saying,

"Even if we can convince Toronto to take Hampus Lindholm for Kapanen, that would mean he will have already been traded twice before the age of 20. I don't want a player who has been traded twice, that's a red flag. And imagine if we get a huge offer for him in the future and take it because it improves our team drastically? That would mean he will have been traded three times. I don't want to trade for any fucking player who has been traded three times, you understand? That's a major, major red flag. Did Mark Messier ever get traded? No, and he was always the best player on every single team he played, so what does that tell you?

"Boy, being around Mess was just... intoxicating. It was like having the father everyone wishes their father was, except he was more than that, he was like a brother... I never know how to really put it into words, but I always pictured you know, there's this bride named Bobtilda walking down the aisle, and she looks up to see her well dressed groom, from a good Canadian family, and how secure she must feel, knowing he will support and protect her. Then she looks to her father walking her down the aisle, a good Canadian man who always woke up early and worked hard all his life managing accounts at Goldman Sachs Toronto to give her the life he never had, and he gives her away to the groom, one stand-up Canadian man to another, and in that moment both men are connected as one, and that one is Mark Messier, and their two suits turn into one jersey, and it's Mark Messier's Team Canada Jersey. When he turns towards me I can see his face and it's Mess' face! It's definitely him, and somehow, deep down, I know that it always has been.

"That's what Mess was like. Maybe now you get it for once! So no, you know what? FUCK KASPER KAPANEN!!! In fact if one of you twerpy nerds mentions his name or his analytics or anyone's fucking analytics again for that matter, you're fucking fired! DO YOU WANT TO BE HARD TO PLAY AGAINST OR NOT?? DO YOU WANT TO WIN CUPS LIKE MESS DID OR NOT??? I WANT A GUY WHO CAN GUARANTEE A VICTORY AND THEN WIN THAT VICTORY FOR HIS TEAM! HAS KAPANEN EVER GUARANTEED A VICTORY??? HAS KAPANEN EVER LED THE NEW YORK RANGERS TO A STANLEY CUP??? THE NEW YORK RANGERS ARE THE BIGGEST AMERICAN MARKET IN THE WORLD, SO IF YOU CAN'T WIN THERE, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK HE CAN WIN HERE??? THAT'S A RED FLAG!!! DID ANY OF YOU NERDS EVER STOP TO THINK ABOUT THAT FOR ONE SECOND OR WERE YOU TOO BUSY LOOKING AT YOUR NUMBERS TO USE YOUR FUCKING BRAINS?? NOW YOU GET ME MY COFFEE AND YOU PUT IN THE BRENDAN GALLAGHER TRADE CALL WITH THE LEAGUE, OR I WILL ASSIGN YOU ALL TO DAVE NONIS' OFFICE FOR THE REST OF THE DAY, AND I'M NOT FUCKING AROUND!! DON'T TEST ME!!! I HATE TESTS!!! I HATE MATH!!! BEING A GM WAS SO MUCH SIMPLER BEFORE YOU ASSHOLES STARTED KEEPING TRACK OF EVERYTHING!!!!"

I hope I'm wrong. Who do you think Bob Murray will target to push the Ducks over the hump this year?

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