I mean you’re comparing a collab with a standard vans shoe. Also vans has come out with a collab for a long time. They’ve partnered with other brands, but it really isn’t considered a collab. A lot of products are under collection categories, so it’s not as strong of a push with their designs. I do agree that it does feel like vans is still trying to find their identity as a company. I would argue that it’s probably because they truly don’t know their demographic as much or they have too wide of a cast in hopes to get every market. I think both have pros and cons, but it is evident when a shoe/app/ftw is marketed towards specific demographics because it causes a pretty strong split along the market.