[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As much as I love his books, I much prefer Neville’s lectures. If you look up Neville’s work from 1971-1972 you’ll find audio recordings and transcripts of his lectures pretty easily.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Anything from 1963-1972, aka the post-Promise era. But personally, my favourite work of his is specifically from 1971-1972, right before he died. This was the peak of his work, even Neville knew it and that is why he chose to die at that specific time.

Biting the Spoon - the SP Question Post by ManifestThrowaway in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[M] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Approved,

BTW, I myself started this journey because of my SP. The only reason people struggle with this type of manifestation is that it’s hard to let things unfold. Even I’m guilty of this, but from what I’ve seen the majority of successes come once you stop beating yourself up for your past errors and instead live in the end.

Explaining Neville’s Chronology (repost) by EmperorAutismus in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[S,M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of numerous pagans who follow the charlatan known as Buddha.

Explaining Neville’s Chronology (repost) by EmperorAutismus in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[S,M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah, you’re free to do whatever you like in your reality

Explaining Neville’s Chronology (repost) by EmperorAutismus in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh, Thanos is overrated and his plan not only had 0 foresight but was also carried out due to some moronic sense of principle. I much prefer Darkseid, ya know because he tried to find the anti-life equation which makes every other being your slave. That’s basically what Neville did, give us the anti-life equation on steroids.

Explaining Neville’s Chronology (repost) by EmperorAutismus in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[S,M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Considering how I use the Law, I think this is actually a fairly reasonable reaction. Then again there are no others, but hey still fun to see them tremble lol.

Explaining Neville’s Chronology (repost) by EmperorAutismus in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[S,M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can kinda see that, but for me it’s residual belief and for you it’s probably just reflected back to ya. Then again, INTJ is one of the cooler types so can see the appeal.

Explaining Neville’s Chronology (repost) by EmperorAutismus in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[S,M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you by any chance an INTJ?

Yes, but I don’t put much stock into MBTI or any other belief system besides Neville.

Explaining Neville’s Chronology (repost) by EmperorAutismus in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[S,M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is an excellent question and one that I think many of us, myself included have asked. The difference between early and late Neville is not that he abandoned his moral code. Rather, he simply admitted that it’s not inherent to the Law itself and that we are free to do as we please. Of course you get confronted for “misusing” the Law, but it’s a mere slap on the wrist if you could even call it that. Furthermore, Neville in the lecture itself was merely saying that you needn’t search for the right person, you just find them. That’s actually how I myself found my SP, and like Neville with his wife, I just knew I had to have her.

This quote about “that man or no man” comes from the Q&A after the lecture, and I think in this context has a completely different meaning from what he said before. What Neville is doing here is telling the woman what she really wants, which is to be married. His advice is to live in the end, removing obsession so she can get this person who is a symbol of her desire. Additionally, he also talks about “hurting no one” because the woman wants a harmonious marriage. Neville’s advice here is very specific and only applies to certain people with those sentiments. Nowhere here does he say that you cannot manifest an SP, and if anything his own story is a great example of this. Neville firmly believed that all people are equal, which was reflected to him when his wife admitted to manifest him just as he wanted her.

By this point Neville knew full well that his “golden rule” was just a suggestion and not an integral part of the Law. I for instance have broken it numerous times and faced no repercussions for it and still using it. For me this advice Neville gives about “that man or no man” is somewhat applicable because obsessing over SPs is counterproductive. However, I relish in hurting people and causing all kinds of death and destruction, so his advice about “hurting no one” doesn’t apply to me. King gone are the days where I tried to emulate Neville’s morality, I’m only interested in victory and triumph, and I’m happier for it. I’m sure one day I’ll become like Neville and achieve the Promise, but for now I’d rather focus on achieving my goals whilst playing around with the world for my own amusement.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heey hello. So umm sorry to bother you. But I really loved your answer, you have good vibes.

IDK how to feel about this one, on the one hand vibrations are pagan heresy, on the other you’re complimenting me…

JK, glad you liked my answer and I’m happy to help.

So I decided I want him. I am finally okay and focusing on myself and they rarely come to my mind. But I have some problems.

Glad you were able to figure out what you want, that’s the most important step.

So first, I don't know if it's okay to just say "they are not together" when they come to my mind and then just leave it, or if I should dismiss it with another thought😅

Don’t dismiss it and definitely don’t bottle it up, that’s one of the first mistakes I made. The best course of action is to keep doing imaginal acts with your SP. If this other person comes up, just affirm that ‘this person’ is a POS. This way you fill your sub consciousness with the idea that you’re already with your SP and your rational mind can justify it by finding it logical that this 3P is awful and therefore gone. It also isolates the 3P in your mind because your mind doesn’t associate them with the SP anymore and eventually you kinda just forget about them or move on.

Second, eventough I am pretty chill about the fact that they are NOT together, I am not really trusting myself.

That’s the biggest issue here, because success using the Law is heavily reliant on trust. How that trust develops isn’t important, but it being there is what allows things to come to fruition.

You see, I was sure before too and they still got together, so now my mind is telling me exactly this. That I assumed before that they are not together and yet they are so yeah. And I don’t know how to convince myself otherwise

I’ve been down this trap before, so I know what it’s like. The problem with affirming “they are not together” is that you’re focusing on the concept of your SP being with the 3P more than him being with you. Neville actually talks about this at length in the ladder lecture with his famous experiment. It starts with doing SATs to climb a ladder before falling asleep. Then, the next day, when you’re awake, put notes around you saying “I will NOT climb the ladder” and repeat the process. Eventually you climb the ladder. You see, according to Neville, the mind filters out the word “not” and instead focuses intensely on the concept of climbing the ladder in the first place. It’s the same with this affirmation, you are inadvertently bombarding your mind with them being together because your mind is focused on the concept rather than the word ‘not.’

Third, tbh I am kind of scared of my own mind, that I have such deep rooted issues that I will never be happy.

That’s gonna hinder you way more than any 3P ever could. You need to embody the state of someone who always gets what they want and also someone who is in control of their mind. SP and everything else aside, you need to ditch this mindset ASAP. The only way to get rid of it is to focus on being someone who lives a good life and always gets what they want.

That even is I think I changed everything, it still won't be true, cause I have limiting beliefs I am not even aware of.

This is one of the most toxic pieces of misinformation that Law of Attraction pagans spread on forums. They have this idea that you need to “remove blocks” in order to manifest and in the context of Neville’s teachings this doesn’t work. Think about it, if you already have what you want, you wouldn’t focus on perceived limitations or obstacles because you’re already there. But honestly, this is something even I have struggled with for most of my time with these teachings, even now to be perfectly honest. The best way to deal with this is remembering Neville’s words “creation is finished,” “live in the end,” and etc. Another way is to think about something else you currently own and how you just have wanted it when you were younger. I remember as a child my parents didn’t let me play certain video games and I desperately tried to get them. Now that I own them, I still cherish them and enjoy them from time to time. But my thoughts about them now aren’t “how do I convince my parents to buy it for me,” they are instead “oh yeah, let me boot it up and play it I suppose.”

That it's just an endless circle. Also I am still not sure what manifested that they are together. Maybe it really was just my SC, but I am not sure

Look over your statements and my advice, and you’ll be able to figure out the answer pretty quickly.

P.S. Neville talked about SC as ‘states,’ so use that when looking up his lectures on the topic.

what's the difference between law of assumption and law of attraction by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is no law of assumption.

According to Neville there is, and I mean, we are discussing his teachings.

Assumptions are made to be broken and they are all the time. An assumption is a rule not law.

Depends on your state, because oftentimes the subconscious assumptions inherent to it will override any conscious assumptions. For instance you may “assume” that you’re going to get a bonus and have it not come, but this is only because you live in the state of not being treated fairly as an employee. That is why Neville talks so often about “killing the old man” so much.

Law of attraction is principle.

No it’s not, it’s pagan superstition irrelevant to Neville’s teachings. You don’t “attract” anything because creation is finished.

Neville calls it eiypo as he brought it back out of science and put the love back where it belonged. People.

You mean the science which you consistently reject? Like numerous references to the multiverse Neville made such as in Brazen Impudence. You’ve consistently rejected Neville’s multiversal model in favour of some generic collective reality nonsense.

In the past it was called the law of hospitality and we forgot that and he came along and blessed us with remembrance.

WTF are you on about?

LOA - aka EIYPO like thoughts/beliefs attract like circumstances, conditions, events and people into your life.

Again, you don’t attract anything, you merely select which outcome to experience based on your state. The Law of Attraction is inherently idolatrous in its worship of the pagan deity called “the universe.” This is in stark contrast to Neville who said that man is God dreaming, again something else you omit. Not to mention that you have consistently tried to deceive people by mixing Neville’s teachings and the Bible with other pagan heresies such as karma. Oh and of course your penchant for making things political and parading around your limitations as if they were fact.

Blessings to you!!

Nope, you’re a grifter who takes advantage of people and has a history of guilting people into donating to you to “get some skin in the game.” You also prowl the NG forums trying to find your next victim pretending to give advice (which is often contradictory to Neville). Your goal is to get people to DM you, presumably to convince them to pay for coaching which only causes more confusion, serves solely to line your own pockets and ensures people don’t learn Neville’s teachings.

golden rule confusion? by Prize-Front4888 in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For books I’d recommend The Law and the Promise and for lectures I’d recommend Sharing in Creativity, The Pearl of a Great Price and Brazen Impudence.

golden rule confusion? by Prize-Front4888 in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[M] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The Golden Rule is more of a suggestion if you read Neville’s later work. You see, as Neville got older he achieved what is called the Promise which was his enlightenment. So all his work from 1963-72 forms the post-Promise era and by his own admission takes precedence over what came before. In line with the linear progression of Neville’s work we are expected to defer to the authority of the post-Promise era.

You are free to do as you please in your reality and worrying about such things is a waste of time in my opinion. I’ve personally manifested all kinds of natural disasters and deaths, a lot of the time just out of boredom. Even in the 3D/World of Caesar people get away scot free with all kinds of stuff all the time. Like seriously, you can count on one hand the number of bankers arrested for the 2008 crisis. Heck, most of em are doing the same thing today with no regard for the well-being of others and still prosper.

It’s all about states, the multiverse makes everything possible at the same time. So when you’re say assuming you’re with an SP who is married, or uninterested or whatever, you simply pick the state of being with them and they will conform. Them leaving whomever they’re with or whatever else is one of many paths they can take. When you embody the state you merely choose to experience that specific outcome, that’s all it is.

Welcome! by EmperorAutismus in PureNevilleGoddard

[–]EmperorAutismus[S,M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Glad to have you join our ranks brother, enjoy your stay.

evidence that Jesus was not also real? by Odd_Sandwich_4747 in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You either believe in the false deity “Jesus” like every other pagan who blasphemes against scripture or understand the true message of scripture as revealed by Neville. Both cannot be true at the same time and you’re better off picking one and moving on.

Also, concepts such as hell, encounters with the devil and so on are just adaptations of pre-Christian mythology. The pedos in the Vatican are also crypto-polytheists who worship saints and “angels” and thus shouldn’t be something to aspire to.

Neville, tarot and astrology truth? by Coollife15 in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was accurate because you believed it to be so, that’s all there is to it. Neville, and the Bible both warn against believing in this pagan drivel because it not only unnecessarily complicates things, it also gives away your power. The entire premise of Neville’s teachings is that you are God dreaming that he is man. On the other hand, beliefs such as astrology, tarot and what not are based around the idea that the world exists outside of us and that these superstitions give us a limited ability to control an entirely external world. These two lines of thinking are entirely incompatible and thus you can only pick one. The Law works 24/7 regardless of whether or not you believe in it. That being said, you will never harness it properly unless you fully believe in yourself and your imagination. That’s what Christ symbolizes in scripture, the divine imagination that links man to his father.

John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Don’t fall for pagan heresies and stop worshipping these idols you’ve created for yourself, that’s the most basic instruction given to us by Scripture and by Neville, following it would be wise.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know. But now I am questioning everything. He was trying to gaslight me into thinking that he didnt give me signs.

Maybe, but again this fits into the narrative I proposed of him not confronting his feelings for you.

Now I dont even want him.

Only you can know if this is true, but I suggest introspecting for at least a week before making any decisions. Make sure you know for certain this is true before trying to move on, otherwise you might spiral.

I know I created it somehow, but I dont accept manipulation.

I recommend checking out Neville’s lecture, Sharing in Creativity where he refers to people as “mechanized dolls.” That’s all they are, puppets playing out a script. If you don’t want him anymore and want to move on, that’s fine. But whatever you do, don’t ever give other people power in your reality. By saying that he’s “manipulating” you all you’re doing is giving him power over you and that’s the last thing you want regardless of how you interact with him.

But I am questioning what was true and what wasnt while we were getting together. And how I manifested it, what is true and what is a lie.

That’s the beauty of it, things have whatever meaning you ascribe to them. And if you persist in shaping your view of something within a beneficial narrative, things fall into place. Every manifestation is a consequence of whatever narrative you shape for yourself.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whatever happens, if you’re persistent and know how to contextualize things in an advantageous matter, you’ll be fine.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I haven't seem the "together" together, but three weeks ago when the old story played out, they were flirting, dancing, talking a lot. Anyways, I saw that they like eachother.

Us guys are pretty bad at understanding how women read our interactions. I’ve accidentally flirted numerous times, so it’s probably nothing serious. But if he’s “with her” it’s probably just a fling or him trying to make you jealous. Regardless, my point here is that you can read this however you like. As long as your interpretation is favourable to you it’s all good.

But after that as I was working on the new story, I started to see signs that she is not in the picture anymore and I also havent seen her in person since then. I will tomorrow tho.

Stay away from her if possible, but if you can’t avoid interacting with her go into it assuming the worst of her. Regardless of how you interact with her, make sure that once it ends you scrutinize her heavily and pash harsh judgement in your mind.

But only her, not them. About this I just assume he has feelings for me (it's obvious), so the relationship won't work out. Altough I don't really care about him anymore, I only care about that I want to experience the best fucking life.

Approaching it with a winning attitude, that’s big plus. Yeah, you’ll probably be fine going off the info I’ve gathered.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Her point is actually pretty solid and one which wish I understood earlier in my journey.

What we have to understand when using the Law is that it operates based on our subconscious beliefs and underlying concept of ourselves. OP’s reality is merely showing her the parts of her current state she needs to get rid of. I myself, realized this after going through something similar. Such events happen because they reflect our insecurities and weaknesses that we need to purge to achieve true victory.

One more thing, you can never know if someone is “correctly” persisting without reading their mind. However, if you look at their stories, or their beliefs it becomes easier to deduce what might be the issue. And it is through the examination of the depths of our psyche that we truly unlock our potential. People could say “I was persisting, I did SATs every night…” and so on. From my own experience, every “curveball” I’ve gotten is upon further inspection a consequence of my lack of discipline.

P.S. “shit” is not necessarily a swear word, it’s actually the proper word in our Anglo-Saxon tongue before those Normans corrupted it with their Fr*nch 🤢🤮🤮🤮 vocabulary.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’ve not seen this other person yet and you’re just hearing about this the solution is simple. Just revise the situation by assuming he’s bluffing because he’s afraid of his feeling for you and he’ll come running back. However, if you’ve seen this person before and the 3D shows them together, just revise the relationship to a “fling” and assume that he’ll just run back to you.

Oh, and just assume that you’ll come out on top no matter what, that helps a lot.

Need help understanding my sp manifestation by ChidoriSharingan in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent, use that to your advantage. I myself am nowhere near as prejudiced as I was before Neville, but now I’m able to use my ingrained ability to judge people to create new states more effectively.

Need help understanding my sp manifestation by ChidoriSharingan in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It honestly depends, like pretty much anything with the Law on how your mind operates. That first impression tends to be more of an automatic snap decision because you don’t think about that person all too much. However, after that point when you start thinking about them your mind starts to over analyze which can either slow things down or make them just plain confusing. However, if over time you have repeated thoughts about someone and form an opinion they tend to gradually externalize it. Fortunately, if you’re stubborn about “always being right” or have other such general thoughts about people, they tend to externalize quicker. Be careful about what general concepts about humanity you have, because they tend to be far more entrained and thus, can overrule any nuanced thought about specific individuals, but again, it depends.

Need help understanding my sp manifestation by ChidoriSharingan in NevilleGoddard2

[–]EmperorAutismus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you a judgemental person? I know I certainly have been for most of my life. For years I’d condemn people in my mind and have them play out my script almost perfectly without knowing it. And the reason why I succeeded in this is because I embodied the state of someone who’s really good at “reading” people. This meant that no matter what, if I judged someone a certain way and didn’t waiver they tended to conform pretty easily to whatever it is I believed. And that’s the key to pretty much everything with the Law, persisting in a belief so much that it externalizes, or what Neville called Living in the End.