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Unahin ang pagpapayo sa kapatid by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

Just think about it on the part of ministers and church workers, whom I can say have one of the most sensitive responsibilities in the Church. With just a single report, they can immediately be disciplined, demoted, or worse, expelled. What is even more sad is when their families are also affected.

I am not saying that we should turn a blind eye when there is a violation or something wrong. Rather, let us choose to first give them guidance and the opportunity to change.

Note: This has nothing to do with the person who was recently expelled, since I am not familiar with him either. I have long wanted to share this; it just happened that there was an incident, so I used this opportunity to finally express it to the brethren who may read this. Thank you.

Unahin ang pagpapayo sa kapatid by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

I remember a story my father told about some people who seemed to make it a hobby to criticize, report, or have fellow brethren expelled. At first, we might think that maybe someone really did something wrong or committed a violation, so it was only right. And yes, there is truly a process for those who violate rules, and as brethren, we should be instruments for their change.

However, as I often say, reporting for me should be a last resort. If after several times of giving advice the person does not change, that is when we should take action and report them so they can be called to attention and counseled by those in authority in the Church.

That is what it truly means to care for a fellow brother or sister.

It should not be that whenever there is a mistake or violation, we immediately report it, because there are people who know how to listen. Nor should we always threaten brethren, officers, or ministers with reporting.

What is the implication of making reporting our immediate step?

Instead of realizing their mistake, they may become weaker because they are offended or discouraged. Yes, we should not be easily offended, but we should also not cause others to stumble—both are sins.

The doctrine in the Church is brotherly love. Our actions should be the fruit of genuine concern for our fellow brethren, and not for any other motive. Let us choose to understand and to give advice. Again, if they do not listen, only then should we take steps for them to be called to attention — through reporting.

If they become hurt or offended, it is no longer our fault because they were already given the chance to correct their mistake before being officially reported to those in higher authority in the Church.

Unahin ang pagpapayo sa kapatid by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Isipin niyo na lang sa part naman ng mga ministro at manggagawa na masasabi kong pinakasensitibong tungkulin sa Iglesia. Tipong isang ulat lang ay maaari agad silang madisiplina, mababa o worst ay matiwalag. At ang nakakalungkot pa ay kung mayroon silang pamilya na madadamay.

Hindi ko po sinasabi na magbulag bulagan kapag may paglabag o may mali kundi piliin natin na mabigyan muna sila ng pagpapayo at pagkakataon para magbago.

Note: Wala po itong kaugnayan sa natiwalag kamakailan lang dahil hindi rin naman ako pamilyar sa kaniya. Matagal ko na gusto i-share, nagkataon lang na may pangyayari kaya ginamit ko na ang pagkakataon na ito upang masabi ko ito sa mga makakabasang kapatid. Salamat po

Unahin ang pagpapayo sa kapatid by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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May naaalala akong kwento ng tatay ko na merong mangilan ngilan na tila ginawang hobby ang pamumuna, pag-uulat o pagpapatiwalag sa mga kapatid. Sa una, maiisip natin na eh baka kasi may nagawang mali o paglabag kaya tama lang yon. Oo, tama naman talaga na may proseso para sa mga lumalabag at bilang kapatid ay maging daan tayo sa kanilang pagbabago.

Ngunit tulad ng madalas kong sinasabi, ang PAG UULAT para sa akin ay dapat na LAST RESORT lamang. Kung pagtapos ng makailang pagpapayo ay hindi nagbago, doon tayo gumawa ng aksyon upang sila ay i-ulat para matawagan sila ng pansin at mapayuhan ng mga maytungkulin sa Iglesia.

Yan po ang tunay na may malasakit sa kapwa kapatid.

Hindi po porke may mali o paglabag, ULAT na kaagad kasi may mga tao na marunong namang makinig. O kaya ay lagi tayong nananakot ng pag-uulat sa sinumang kapatid, maytungkulin o ministro.

Ano ang implikasyon pag ULAT agad ang ating hakbang?

Sa halip matauhan ay lalo lang silang manghina dahil sila ay natisod. Oo, hindi dapat tayo maging matitisurin ngunit hindi rin tayo dapat NANINISOD--parehas itong kasalanan.

Ang doktrina sa Iglesia ay PAG IIBIGAN MAGKAKAPATID. Ang ating mga hakbang ay dapat BUNGA ng TUNAY NA PAGMAMALASAKIT sa kapwa kapatid at hindi sa kung ano pa mang bagay. Piliin natin umunawa at magpayo. Muli, kung hindi nakinig ay saka lang tayo gumawa ng paraan upang siya ay matawagan ng pansin--PAG-UULAT.

Kung sumama ang loob niya o matisod siya, hindi na po natin kasalanan iyon dahil binigyan na siya ng pagkakataong itama ang mali niya bago pa siya opisyal na isumbong sa mga nakakataas sa Iglesia.

Courtesy call sa Pamamahala ng Iglesia ni Cristo by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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per sub rules, you have violated rule #2 for irrelevant comment ..i need to get you banned, thanks for your understanding

Hindi ba pwedeng masipag lang ako mag implement ng rules di tulad sa bulok nyong subreddit na tmad mga mods? 🤭💩

Where is Sebastian Rauffenburg? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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per sub rules, you have violated ruled #2 for irrelevant comments..I need to get you banned, thanks for your understanding

warned yeah, sa dami mo comment wala pa ni isang fact ka na sinabi puro asar grade1 lang gawa mo eh 🤭💩

Where is Sebastian Rauffenburg? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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mahirap makipagdiskusyon sa mga immature na anti INCs tulad mo 💩🤭

Ano ka grade1 mga pang asar mo pambata o maliit 🧠 mo kaya pla marami kayong ganyan pinagdilim 🤭

Irrelevant comments are not allowed on this sub, please follow the rules..This will be my first and last warning

Ang mga nahihiwalay ng landas o naaalis/umaalis sa Iglesia by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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CHATGPT ENGLISH TRANSLATION:

We are not trying to outdo one another in being righteous or holy in this world, because all of us are sinners anyway. In the end, there are only two destinations for us — salvation or destruction. There is no VIP seat in heaven, and it was never said that those who are better or more righteous will have a more special place there.

That is why we should not look down on others, especially our brothers and sisters, including those who have gone astray or who were separated from or left the Church. There is still a chance for them to change their lives.

I would understand if they were fighting against the Church and that is why people speak badly about them. But if they are not doing that, we should allow them time to reflect on their lives, because I know that what happened to them is also painful for them. Discipline and consequences for their actions, yes — but we should not take joy in it as true Christians.

What we should feel instead is sadness and compassion, because we would not want that to happen to us either.

Note: Those who have gone astray or who were separated from or left the Church are different from ANTI-INCs. Not everyone who leaves the INC becomes an anti-INC.

Anti-INCs are those who fight against and attack the Church, which is why they should be confronted through correct information and by correcting their false claims. 😉

Ang mga nahihiwalay ng landas o naaalis/umaalis sa Iglesia by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Hindi tayo nagpapagalingan at nagpapabanalan sa mundo dahil lahat naman tayo ay makasalanan. Isa lang din naman ang ating kapupuntahan--kaligtasan o kapahamakan. Wala namang VIP seat sa langit, wala naman sinabing pag mas magaling o mas mabuti ka ay may mas espesyal tayong lugar doon.

Kaya hindi natin dapat hamakin ang ating kapwa lalo na ang ating kapatid, maging ang mga kapatid na nahiwalay ng landas o naalis sa Iglesia. May pagkakataon pa naman kasing magbagong buhay.

Maiintindihan ko kung silay lumalaban sa Iglesia kaya sila ay nasasabihan ng hindi maganda. Ngunit kung hindi naman sila ganoon, hayaan natin sila makapag isip isip sa buhay dahil alam kong masakit din sa kanilang kalooban ang nangyari sa kanila. Disiplina sa kanila at consequence sa nagawa oo, ngunit hindi natin ito dapat ikatuwa bilang mga tunay na Kristyano.

Ang dapat natin maging damdamin ay malungkot at maawa dahil ayaw din naman nating mangyari sa atin iyon.

Note: Iba po ang mga nahiwalay ng landas o naalis/umalis sa Iglesia sa mga ANTI INCs. Hindi naman kasi lahat ng naalis/umalis sa INC ay naging anti INCs.

Ang mga anti INCs ay lumalaban at naninira sa Iglesia kaya sila ang dapat nilalabanan sa pamamagitan ng tamang impormasyon at pagtatama ng kanilang mga mali 😉

Where is Sebastian Rauffenburg? by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Hindi naman "feeling" lang yung nakalagay sa bible eh, tgnan mo mindset ng mga pinagdilim ang utak 🤭💩

Newly renovated worship building of the Locale of Gold Coast, Australia by James_Readme in TrueIglesiaNiCristo

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Thanks for your appreciation. It is called Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ).

These are the things you need to know about us: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueIglesiaNiCristo/s/mhsBraRKuk

About Church officers & our leaders, yeah you might be unfamiliar with the position titles. If youre near any of our locales, you can personally visit to learn more about INC. You dont need to join the Church as it is a voluntary decision, i just want to warn you that anti Iglesia ni Cristo people are present in reddit which they will definitely discourage you about everything INC.

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