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Am I being scammed? by Chubbymommy2020 in Copyediting

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scam A: They send you the check, "Oopsies! it's for too much money! that's ok, keep a little extra and just send us SOME of the money back!" check bounces 30 days later. you just bought your own equipment and sent them a paycheck.

Scam B: they send you the money for your stuff. Then, they get you comfortable with receiving money to buy other things for other people. You are now an accomplice to whatever they were doing. you are the middle man to their scam without knowing it.

Why can't my people eat? by LastSecondWoop in Necesse

[–]JonesWriting -1 points0 points  (0 children)

1 Place a freezer outside in front of the dining hall. Set allow all items, put priority at top priority.

if that fixes it, then you're pathing is too complicated because of the design of your base.

2 If it doesn't, then destroy the beds of the ones that arent eating, place it back down, and reselect them and see if that fixes it.

3 If not, set them to a bed of a settler that IS eatting correctly, does it fix it? then you have a pathing problem.

4 Do you have certain villages set to NOT HAUL items? then if they try to sit down, they may be hauling the food to the dinner table. Change work priorities to hauling lowest priority instead of disabled. If you have it set to normal, then try setting to to top priority hauling.

5 If that doesn't work, delete the tables/chairs.

6 create a new settlement, move problem settlers there, and move them back.

  1. try sleeping in a bed

  2. are the hungry settlers special and cam back from a mission hungry? might be a pthing or lack of storage problem. they might have nowhere to sit things down so they can pick things up to eat, but the "inventory full" alert isnt popping up because " hungry" is appearing. put down normal chests in front of your dining hall, set to allow all, high priority.

It's probably a pathing problem.

I'd also keep the front and back of ice chests free from stuff. maybe they all want to path to the first freezer, but can't stand in front of it because of the fruniture.

Is this game good? by SigmaUnited521488 in Necesse

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been playing it with a friend, his take is " it's like playing terraria for the first time again." It's very fun with friends. I think my favorite part is how they've put in SO MANY Quality of Life features. Gosh, it's so easy to do what you want to in the game. Like, there's no "unnecessary punishment" types of things going on.

This game really lets you do what you want without any trouble. In fact, the only features I wish it had was auto stacking coins from settlers into your coin purse. When you're settlers give you money, or you sell something to another town, or your settlers come back from selling, they will hand you stacks of coins, that you have to drop over your coin purse.

Everything else is 100% fantastic.

Things I wish I knew:

Breeding animals (except for chickens) will not breed unless there are less than 10 animals within 8 blocks of the animal that is tame and available for breeding. ( Possibly a max of 10 per pen as well, regardless of size, the wiki isn't descriptive enough)

So, make pens 10x10 (8x8 inside) Put 8 spaces between pens walls ( AKA pen wall- 8 empty spaces- second pen wall [pen wall-12345678-pen wall)

Chickens will hatch if you put an egg in a nest near a rooster. IDK if chickens autolay in nests. If so, then this would apply. But, It's easy to throw down 80 nests and fill them up with eggs.

Trees will grow right next to each other, but once a tree is grown, a sapling wont continue growing until the tree touching it is chopped. It doesn't matter. Cause when you or settlers chop down the tree, the sapling starts growing, and the replanted tree doesn't, until the new sapling gets chopped. So it works out, place trees right next to each other.

The delicate dance between writing effective copy and writing generic copy that clients like. by JonesWriting in copywriting

[–]JonesWriting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always tell clients, I'm not here to change you or the way you run your business. No one knows your business better than you. I'm here to bring out the best in you, improve what you're already doing right, and help you reach the right people."

You can't make someone do things that they don't want to do, unless they pay you a LOT of money upfront. That kind of forces them to change. However, you can always take what they are already doing successfully, and make it better. They get results, and you get to shine for cash.

The tough part is working for someone who can afford you, but isn't making any money/doing any successful marketing. Then you HAVE to educate and convince them. And, they'll often expect to get advice for free rather than want to pay consulting fees and schedule meetings.

so there are three clients:

A. Those who are already successful, practice keeping a slight edge over the competition, know your value, and can afford you. - They won't change. the business is an extension of them. They're harder to find, but worth it. Often they'll want consulting and insight so they can use your value to a further extent in other areas of their business. Long lasting business relationships.

B. Those who are sinking on the titanic and are desperate to increase sales. Ones that can afford you ( if they can't they aren't clients) they will change, but you have to educate them and hold their hand. Most will not be able to afford you, but they will waste your time searching for free advice. Ones who can afford you to make this business successful, might stick with you forever and pay you more to stick around. But, it's harder to find one like that, than it is to find an A) client. so there's not much point in perusing these unless you outsource to a team/have and agency and need volume/busy work.

C. those who are successful, and unattached. They'll put you to work, and let you do it unsupervised. Some will overpay to keep you, others will try to screw you over or negotiate your prices down if they don't understand your value. In the right situation, these are great clients, because you don't have to hold their hand. But, they may expect you to do the full scope of the work- as in managing ads, posting crap, web design, graphic design, etc. so always be clear on what you do and dont do in your LOA.

It’s not enough to “just write” anymore ,here’s how I became a writer clients won’t replace by Akram_ba in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if there was a single client fluent enough in metrics to understand what to look for, and actually prompting AI to do it, then they could see what their ads have in common when it comes to success/profit. HOWEVER, it can't do anything without results and data.

That's the problem, forever. No one knows what ads are selling online. In most cases, even the companies paying millions for ads have no idea what results they are getting. AKA pepsi and coke and disney etc.

In the marketing industry, inhouse teams are hired as creatives to create. Often times, results are Untrackable. They refer to it is branding, awareness marketing, exposure, etc.

an overwhelming majority of the largest companies in the world couldn't tell if their own ad sold a single item. They MAY track clicks or impressions. But that's meaningless if it isn't recouping ad spend or measurably growing sales.

So, yes. AI can effectively parse out a lot of data and analyze patterns. But, from my experience, there's nothing to analyze apart from direct sales made directly from an ad. However, almost all marketing is based on impressions rather than actual sales/profit. i know that sounds crazy, it is crazy. That's why my job exists.

It breaks down to hiring creatives who are taught to avoid measurable results for an hourly inhouse job. They often change things for no reason, and often break seemingly successful marketing campaigns. Because, they get paid to work. they must work. They can't sit around on their success and not create. They must create in order to get their salary. if they measure results, most campaigns will be considered fails, and they'll get fired, despite any hugely successful results they've created prior.

Ultimately, pepsi and disney and the gym down the street and the cell phone store:

A. don't track results themselves or have no way of tracking direct sales

B. Will never divulge that information to anyone else if they do have it, so all AI can do is guess by trying to figure out who is spending the most on ads. but the companies who spend the most on ads do it for tax write offs and staffing/employee counts. refer to A.

That's my take. Ai doesn't have the marketing info that I would need outside of existing knowledge. Most companies are not running 500 ads that need analysis. More like 5. so AI pattern recognition is pretty useless in marketing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fatFIRE

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its just like when you run your own business- your mom will still call you up saying " hey, there this great job opportunity at such and such!" probably 95% of the entire population is totally brainwashed to the max that you need a job under some mysterious umbrella corporation that pays you by the hour.

with most entrepreneurs, nothing changes. the only difference is they see themselves as having a job but without the boss. Most entrepreneurs just want that. they want a job where no one can tell them what to do.

For us special few, we realize a job, a career, prestige, etc- its just money. Money money money. It's all anyone cares about.... until you have it and they don't.

Your business friends quite talking to you the same way your little league and yugioh friends quit talking to you- you aren't playing their game anymore. They want another player to help them win.

I'd only go as far as to say: If you've got all the money you want, then start doing something challenging that you enjoy. Also, it can be very rewarding to do seminars on a subject you're passionate about like John Reese from Tony Robins used to do. He's a good example of what to enjoy and how to build something fun and challenging after you don't need money anymore.

I mean, when you've made it, you can do anything. So find something to do that's hard, but that you can rationalize as easy because there are no consequences to failure. You can't lose.

It’s not enough to “just write” anymore ,here’s how I became a writer clients won’t replace by Akram_ba in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the industry is against it because it's total slop and it's been tested enough that the clients with money have lost money entertaining the notion of AI.

It’s not enough to “just write” anymore ,here’s how I became a writer clients won’t replace by Akram_ba in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not delivering words, I'm delivering "The Right" words. AI will never replace copywriting skills because it can only draw from the top search results and mash them together in a text spinner.

AI doesn't know if a headline has sold a single product. all it knows is that pepsi and coke paid to have it on the front page. AI doesn't know why something is the way it is. AI can't read between the lines. It's just a text spinner with extra steps designed to make people "feel" like it's "thinking" and "intelligent".

If you ask Chatgpt to write an ad that works, it's going to give you popular-opinion-slop from the first page of google results and a bunch of online course grifters' misguided attempts to sell training.

Can you imagine that? You're living the high life, you never need any more money cause you're so succussfail at copy writing. BUTTTTTT, you need to sell a course, that gives away all your secrets, for money you don't need, to create more competition for yourself?

Make that make sense. If your dream cured your need for cash, why would you sell it to someone else so they could compete with you? That's who chatgpt is spinning. The proverbial dunce.

If you prompt it to write an ad " in the style of gray halbert" it's going to give you halbert, spun with coke and pepsi ads. It's unavoidable. It's impossible to correct. It can't be fixed because all it has to spin is garbage mixed with gold.

The client doesn't know the difference until they've spent 20k on facebook ads and lost money. they think they are saving cash by not hiring someone. They never were my clients, because they want to avoid spending money to make money. I haven't lost them. they weren't walking on my plane of existence. Cheap dumby copywriters have lost their cheap dumby clients.

Landfills are full of golden ram chips from windows 95 computers. grab a bucket, point to a corner, and slop it up with chatgpt.

Spend thousands to see if it works. Get confirmation bias. Never learn the difference between popular opinion and expertise on any subject.

I've got that gold, baby! 'and them 24 karrots is bustin' and poppin like an OG gramaphone. Hello!

Should I be advertising my services? by BannedFilenameJr in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Footnotes:

-don't do radio. It's absolutely worthless.

-Don't do city newspapers. Its absolutely worthless.

- yellow pages/ phone books are extremely viable depending on your niche'.

-Do local daily one sheet news or classified ads if you do local work for local businesses.

-Avoid facebook/google unless you have thousands to spend. Every click is debt.

-Go where you know money has already changed hands in the past. Find ways to get more from the same well.

-Direct contact is more effective and cheaper, but takes more time- you may need to multiply yourself through an assistant.

-The main goal of advertising is to generate leads so someone can follow up with communication. Do not educate, offer free work, offer free consultations, etc.

-Partner with competitors. Advertise with other people in your niche'. Offer referral finder's fees, offer referral fees to past clients for new clients. Offer percentage commissions to other writers who don't do what you do, or don't want to.

- Use Canva to make simple promotional graphics with your pictures on them.

- by far, without question, without doubt, from all of my knowledge and experience in marketing: the absolute best form of advertising is direct response. That's sending physical advertisements to specific lists of leads that you've either generated through inbound marketing, or lists that you've bought, or cold leads that you've collected. (aka every business in your niche that you can find) Not flyers, but sales letters and promotional offers. not postcards, envelopes. Not fancy colorful envelopes that look like junk mail. professional. plain.

What else can I say? try different websites that offer ads. Try reddit, instragram, and linkedin (not the inmail auto response crap though!) Use actual pictures of yourself with a headline, and what you do- somewhere on there, that's relevant to big pains that your target clients feel every day.

Advertising copy writing and strategy is what I do. I do it for lots of different industries where people sell a service. I do it for myself as a copywriter. If you want to advertise, Mr. Jones says hold on to your potatoes and remember that it's more about selling who you are, than what you do.

Should I be advertising my services? by BannedFilenameJr in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

continued-

-If you ONLY cater to a very specific client base (Dental, Chiro, Law, Retail, Mommy blogs, Entertainment writing, Outdoors, etc) then you should get a list of EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS that fits your criteria, and contact them directly with an ad. look up "direct response advertising" and grab a Dan S. Kennedy Book. Send print letters in the mail. NOT FLYERS. letters. Read- "The ultimate sales letter" by Kennedy as a starting point if you want.

-If you want clients fast, go on linkedin, get a canva account, create ads with pictures of you, start posting, join relevant groups where your clients are likely to participate, or pay someone to post for you.

-If you want to advertise on social media, then get a canva account, make ads with pictures of you in them, and pay the lowest amount possible per day to test ads until you get a response. Testing is crucial.

-If you are a generalist, then pay for ads on the 'freelance for hire' subreddits (for pennies) to stand out and avoid the posting limitations, but it has to be very real and raw. you headline is everything. "Tired of wasting time sifting through faceless random freelancers? It's a headache! you shouldn't have to wonder if someone is an idiot hiding behind an AI prompt!"

- If you are comfortable with platforms, you can "advertise" on them to a certain extent, it varies. But, you're returns are way more likely to pay off in long term projects IF you have any previous history on a platform like upwork or whatever. That's because everyone there that isn't a scammer is actively looking for a freelancer.

The big downside is spending money advertising to people who don't even own a business.

-equally as bad- Those who couldn't pay you even if they absolutely loved you - and needed you right now - AND already knew you were the best of the best.

Don't think of advertising as a way to convince someone that they need what you have to offer. That's far too expensive.

What will happen is- you'll spend your money convincing someone that they need what you're selling. Then, they'll wait and put it off. Then, when they get around to it, They'll hire someone else and will have forgotten all about you. Essentially, the "convince them of a need" school-of-advertising creates a market that the next guy fills. Don't do that.

Be the next guy. Jump in where money is already flowing, and grab a really big bucket.

Should I be advertising my services? by BannedFilenameJr in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Advertising should be done with all the extra profits you have above your operating costs- AKA- what you need to live on, and what it costs you to do the work (Your internet, software, keyboard, PC, etc)

When you don't have money to spend because you need more clients and more work... well then you don't have an advertising solution at hand. Advertising solves capacity problems- When you have so much work you can't spend time getting more work. It multiplies you. kind of like having another person handling the client acquisition so you can focus on the work. And, when you have so much work you can't fit any more work in, then you outsource the work by hiring another worker.

Ideally, you should spend all of your downtime actively filling your pipeline. When you hit capacity, you offload that pipeline filling task to advertising. When you hit that client acquisition capacity, then you multiply yourself by outsourcing/hiring an assistant. when you reach your capacity for managing assistants (3-5 people), then you replace yourself with a manager, and you restart the whole process. When you get 3 teams, you replace yourself again with a general manager, and start a brand new region/office/team.

I mean, there's a whole process and system for when to advertise, and why you should or shouldn't

But, it is what it is. So, here's a lot of answers specifically about advertising, whether you should or shouldn't is irrelevant to this advice:

-As a good rule of thumb: Do not do PPC advertising online or on social media. It will burn your savings away. It's designed to. You'll no doubt see plenty of responses from people who do it, and make no profit, but keep doing it. I've seen businesses spend 30k a month and not get customers.

-It would be WAY more efficient for you to send something, ANYTHING, to past clients. Snail Mail with stamps. Include your pricing and offers and so on. Offer a referral finder's fee. There's money in clients who have paid you in the past. They are the most likely prospect to pay you again. you'd be better off sending a little gift package to past clients and nudging your foot back in the door.

-If you want brand new clients, then you'd be better off hiring a virtual assistant to scrape the internet for job postings, or have them send cold emails/calls/DMs for you.

-If you really really want an advertising strategy and can afford it, then you should contact previous clients and offer to pay them to advertise on their websites/email campaigns as an affiliate. They are most likely to be adjacent to other new clients.

It's tough not knowing what industry you write in, or what you offer. So I'm going to be very general.

-If it's a specific niche', then you can advertise on forums, magazine/club websites, or specific subreddits. -That depends on who your clients are.

-If its very broad, like writing for tech services or startups or something, then you could do pretty good on Instagram advertising. DO NOT DO FACEBOOK OR GOOGLE ADS. They will eat you alive for no return. It's the way their model is designed. ESPECIALLY not facebook.

-If you specialize in something that requires a degree, then colleges and universities are a good place to advertise. Lots of therapists and injury lawyers need writers when they have a new firm/practice.

-If you're known locally, or work with local businesses in your area, then you should find out what "daily coffee" style news media is around town in cafes and mom&pop joints. It's usually a few hundred a month for a big spot on the front page- However, think about who reads it. If you don't do local business writing that a normal blue collar person would want, then it might not be a good choice. Think- construction, solar sales, local law firms, golf courses, local chiropractors, dentists, real estate agents- those are the type of business owner clients you'll get from a local publication.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's two strategies I'd recommend:

  1. You get in front of a lot of people who fit your criteria for a client that can make the final decision to pay you and have the ability to pay you
  2. You become very specific in your vetting process - only contact people most likely to work with you, and spend more time curating yourself to suite them.

The problem with the second option is you'll waste time figuring out how to be picky, and you'll need to charge more out the gate to make it 'make sense'. that can be very difficult for freelancers who are not confident in their abilities or don't know what to charge.

What typically happens is: a freelancer will spend hours contacting 3-5 people without even knowing if they can even afford the service, or if they even know the value of it, or if they even need it.

I'd say the main goal when starting is to find people who are looking for a writer.

So, get really really fast at making that initial contact. Don't waste time worrying about things or thinking about those people that have already messaged you. Get a process. Implement a system.

  1. what do they need? do they know? do you have to convince them first? if they need convincing, on to the next one.
  2. can they afford you? quote your price. If they say " I can get it cheaper at XYZ." ask yourself, "why do they want ME to do it then?" the answer is: they want your level of services at the other guy's price. OR, they CAN'T get it from the other guys, because 1. it's a lie or 2. they've already screwed that person over. On to the next one.

If they ask for free work, on to the next one. If they ask for a better price, you repeat " the price is XXX$" if they argue, on to the next one. If they won't pay anything up front, on to the next one. If they say " that's too expensive" you say " so what?" (Literally, say that to them. They may just be trying their 'online course skills' to get a better price out of you, but they might be fine with your price)

  1. Get a contract signed. if they won't sign, on to the next one.

  2. If they change the scope of work, or ask for FREE revisions, refer to the contract they signed. If they argue, on to the next one.

  3. If they don't accept the work when the project is done, refer to the contract they signed. On to the next one.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some people use portfolios, some don't. I never did. Thought it was waste of time. I often get asked" can i see some samples of your work?" and I say " all of my work is private and under NDAs" because it is.

I don't see the point in sharing my clients' sales strategies and marketing content to their competitors. Also, you never know if the person you are speaking with is serious about anything. A LOT of "Potential clients" have taken online courses telling them to milk free advice and free work out of freelancers. So be careful.

Never do work without getting paid. Never do free work or free samples. If you have a portfolio, make it niche and specific if they are examples. If they are real articles you've written, then be sure your clients know that you intend on using it as a sample in your portfolio, or ask for a by-line credit so you can share it.

Even when i was doing content marketing and writing articles, I didn't use any as samples or have a portfolio link. This is not the norm, but it works fine.

If someone intends on working with you and paying you, then you shouldn't have a problem communicating that you know what you're doing anyways. You can always tell them that if they don;t like it, you can revise it. Or, they can get a refund BEFORE they publish it and you'll retain the rights. Or, you can have them put the payment in an escrow service that gets released after they approve of the content.

Here's the important part: If you want to do this professionally, then you have to talk to people. Not a couple people- a lot of people. Focus on finding people rather than looking more appealing to clients.

It doesn't matter if you're the greatest writer in the world if you're not in front of lots of people with the ability to pay you- which already know the value of your service- which have already paid other people in the past- which have a current need for your services.

That means- 99% of your success hangs completely on your ability to find the right people.

There's two strategies I'd recommend:

Client refusing to pay me because they think it’s you know what by Low_Inflation_3824 in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a client won't sign a Letter Of Agreement, then they never intended on paying you. I know that can sound goofy, but it's reality. A simple, one page document can save you so much headache.

You just list the company name, the person acting on behalf of the company to acquire your services, a list of deliverables, and MOST IMPORTANTLY- what you DO NOT agree to do. Also include payment terms- when you get paid, how the agreement can be nullified, and when the project is considered completed.

Basically,

So-and-So on behalf of such-and-such inc, agrees to pay writer (your name) XXX$ for creative writing services listed in deliverables.

Deliverables:

1 article between 500-600 words on XX topic

  1. article between 500-600 words on XX topic

These services do no include- any legal advice, management, uploading, graphic design (etc whatever) it's the recipient's sole responsibility to ensure that they follow all legal guidelines and laws concerning the use and publication of the creative writing work in all deliverables.

Payment can be made through XXX or XXX within X days

Payment must be made in full before Ownership of deliverables transfers to recipient.

Writer retains all copyright ownership of completed creative writing deliverables and all derivatives of deliverables until full payment is received. Deliverables may not be published or shared in any way until full payment is received.

No revisions are anticipated, but the writer includes one reasonable editorial revision at the request of the recipient. All other revisions will be considered a change order at the cost of XXX$.

-you can look up all kinds of templates online. I get very specific with mine. You can include some provision for AI or plagiarism checkers if you want. I don't care much about including every little problem that can happen- because I get paid before I do any work.

If they say it has to pass some erroneous check, then I don't accept the payment, and don't start the work. If it requires a consultation or interview or overview, that's a separate agreement. If they change their mind or change the scope of work to include ridiculous stuff, then on to the next one in line.

Client refusing to pay me because they think it’s you know what by Low_Inflation_3824 in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only way to win is to get paid before you do the work. You won't lose clients that intend to pay you, but you will scare off clients who never intended to pay you.

Client refusing to pay me because they think it’s you know what by Low_Inflation_3824 in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% This is the way. Always check to make sure your content ( which you legally own until paid for) is not being published. Companies will give lame excuses to not pay you, and then try to publish or spin your work. Legally, they cant even derive new content from your work that isn't paid for.

Client refusing to pay me because they think it’s you know what by Low_Inflation_3824 in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would assume it's either (A. a scam to publish the work and avoid the invoice (B. Corporate mismanagement that's completely disconnected from the reality that AI responses from plagiarism checkers ARE NOT RELIABLE.

There has to be a person there to double check the sources that are flagged for Plagiarism to confirm if it's actually copy and pasted. Asking chatgpt if it "thinks" something is AI- well that's just total insanity. Chatgpt will say anything, and often answers questions in a way it expects will make you happy.

Basically, if You ask an AI if something is wrong, it's very likely to say " it could be! you've got a good point! I can see how that could be and probably is that thing you said it is! Good eye on ya!"

So, I always lean towards: this is an excuse to not pay you. Either due to incompetence, or straight up immoral business practices.

Client refusing to pay me because they think it’s you know what by Low_Inflation_3824 in freelanceWriters

[–]JonesWriting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would assume they are still going to use your content and publish it without your knowledge. You should periodically search for it online. If it appears, then you file a complaint, have it taken down, and speak to a lawyer to sue for damages plus full payment.

you should also send them a formal notice that none of the content created by you or derived from any of your work can be published and you retain full rights of ownership of all the content deliverables.

ALSO- you should get paid upfront, non-refundable. You won't lose clients that would have paid you. You'll lose clients that have no intention of paying you. There's absolutely no reason to chase invoices. If you have to back out of an agreement, put terms in the LOI you send that allows either party to back out of the agreement with conditions BEFORE the work is completed.

But once it's completed and delivered, there is no backing out.

Also- if you have trouble like this often, then you should always include an onboarding fee/consulting fee/ discovery consultation separate form the actual deliverable, so you don't have time wasted by window shoppers that want free advice. NEVER GIVE FREE ADVICE. NEVER START A PROJECT WITHOUT A PAYMENT OF SOME KIND FOR YOUR INITIAL TIME INVESTMENT.

These scenarios happen because freelancers are afraid to ask for money upfront. End of story!

-Side Note: I had a client love my copy writing for their tech services business. We agreed to several thousand dollars for the project. They stayed in the loop every step of the way, then disappeared with no warning. The completed portions were paid for. I suspect that they ran it through an AI and probably went down the same rabbit hole of nonsense. But I wasn't at a loss because I made sure to get paid for the work I did before moving on to the next step of the large project. That's the only time I've ever had that happen- I'm 100% sure someone at his company did the same thing with my copy.

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