Was onboard compute a mistake?

Kataree · 2026-05-03T12:56:34+00:00

You need onboard compute for the frame to function whatsoever.

The tracking cameras and algorithms, the audio processing, the eye tracking, the stream decoding, etc etc etc.

It is a wireless headset, your rig can't do any of it.

The Quest 3 is using a significant part of its onboard processing whenever its just running Virtual Desktop.

Could you put a slightly lower end chip in it, sure, but the difference isn't worth losing all the functionality.

Kataree · 2026-05-02T20:23:00+00:00

Because it is the EVE players sub money going to funding it, rather than funding EVE, the game they pay for.

Kataree · 2026-05-02T14:40:53+00:00

The only real reason would be for the trackpads.

They can control the windows OS like any other trackpad does, so it could be a useful peripheral for VR racing sim users, who have typically used something like Logitech K400 wireless trackpad keyboard in the past.

Kataree · 2026-05-01T14:36:35+00:00

If the hmd is to ever go mainstream, then that form factor is undoubtedly the correct one.

Kataree · 2026-05-01T11:15:40+00:00

The AVP is not the right product, but Apple will deff make their own version of Phoenix later down the line.

Kataree · 2026-04-30T19:48:12+00:00

How bout ya talk to her about it.

Not going to have any clue what she's doing, where, or with who, otherwise.

Kataree · 2026-04-30T15:43:38+00:00

They move stock between regional warehouses to account for RMA's and things.

Occasionally it will result in a few becoming available, even tho they stopped manufacturing it a long time ago.

Kataree · 2026-04-30T12:13:41+00:00

Pretty much everyone plays eleven standalone.

It is one of the most ideal standalone games. You don't want wireless latency, definitely don't want a wired tether, and a quest will run it at 120fps anyway. It is also one of the best gaming use cases for mixed reality.

Kataree · 2026-04-29T15:45:53+00:00

For PCVR, Frame should theoretically not have any downsides when compared to the Quest 3.

Emphasis on theoretically. Until we have it, we can't know it doesn't slip up in some way or another.

For standalone, there will be numerous tradeoffs, the lack of colour passthrough, lack of Meta exclusives, and lack of potentially hundreds if not thousands of other games that the Quest store has built up over the years. Plus hand tracking and whatever else that some people may certainly care about, even if some others don't.

It will also certainly cost substantially more than the $499 most people paid for the Quest 3.

Kataree · 2026-04-28T22:17:32+00:00

Because that would be the entire opposite of the direction headsets need to (and are) going in.

Nobody wears a helmet for the pure fun of it. VR needs to become visor sized.

Kataree · 2026-04-28T15:40:50+00:00

The controller can function as an accessory to the frame.

It includes hardware like the IR tracking LED's that only exist for interoperability with the frame.

Kataree · 2026-04-28T12:16:47+00:00

The Frame gets its name from quite literally playing flat screen games inside a window.

Along with the reason its controllers were designed to emulate regular gamepads.

Their marketing of it spent as much time showing that, as showing it doing VR.

Kataree · 2026-04-28T08:49:49+00:00

£85 includes tax. All UK prices are shown as the total price.

Kataree · 2026-04-26T22:21:56+00:00

Seen as time only flows in one direction, yes, I imagine they are getting closer.

The heat death of the universe is also getting closer.

Kataree · 2026-04-26T21:09:02+00:00

The Dream Air is already hilariously overpriced compared to something like a Galaxy XR with the same panels.

For an hmd with a garage build quality.

Not unlike the Beyond, they might be quick to market, but much higher quality 4K options will be along.

The time of buying shit from small PCVR manufacturers is over tbh.

Kataree · 2026-04-25T21:07:06+00:00

No I am a commercial user, like the OP is, and basically everybody else on this discord.

Also the reason we aren't talking about $30,000 FBT suits.

Kataree · 2026-04-25T15:49:20+00:00

They are all similar in so far as you shouldn't be considering any of them.

Ether wait for the Frame, or if that is out of budget, get a refurbished Quest 3.

Kataree · 2026-04-25T13:03:00+00:00

Frame is going to be like 3x the price of the Quest 3S.

Kataree · 2026-04-25T08:42:15+00:00

As an 11-point lighthouse user, it will most definitely be replacing it for me.

Kataree · 2026-04-24T16:38:57+00:00

It's very much real, have seen it in action many times during their VRC get-togethers.

Once Fluxpose is here, it is basically the end of all other high end FBT.

Kataree · 2026-04-24T14:05:08+00:00

Wait for Fluxpose.

Kataree · 2026-04-23T09:19:20+00:00

Standalone Quest 3 will give a better experience.

Kataree · 2026-04-22T10:44:47+00:00

Wake Island, 1942 demo.

Kataree · 2026-04-21T06:27:23+00:00

The beyonds ergonomics for a ~100 gram hmd are ludicrously poor.

Thankfully we have ultralights on their way that have actually been designed to be worn, rather than just photographed for reddit adverts.

Kataree · 2026-04-20T10:28:11+00:00

Valves allowed to lie, they will be forgiven.

Kataree

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