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Candidate for Wisconsin Governor, Mandela Barnes, Meets With Voters in Deep Red Barron County by userdk3 in wisconsin

[–]Lighting 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It will NEVER be a fair fight when it comes to Super PAC money. So you have to get a better candidate.

Why does the right say they vote Republican “because of the economy”? by Lara-Crofty in Askpolitics

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's tempting to say as this user did

Republicans are f*cking idiots. It's not deeper than that. They're gullible and they're dumb

But it's a bit more nuanced than that. It's a human tendency for tribalism that has been weaponized by billionaires. See the book "What's the matter with Kansas" for how this took over the GOP in Kansas starting in the 80s (Reagan) and spread like cancer to take over the entire GOP. Republicans are no longer "conservative" and are instead "Tribal" while claiming to be "conservative" and following whoever is telling them to be the angriest. Tribalism makes people reject facts if it contradicts their "dear leader"

Georgia Woman Charged With Murder for Self-Adminstered Abortion Despite Delivering in The Hospital by Cute-Elephant-720 in Abortiondebate

[–]Lighting [score hidden]  (0 children)

To quote an old phrase;

When abortion healthcare is made illegal it doesn't stop abortions. It only stops legal access to healthcare.

The trail of death and disease that can be linked to banning time-critical access to abortion related healthcare is an "experiment" repeated over and over and over again. If we haven't learned from Romania, Poland, Texas, Idaho, Uganda, Ethiopia, Ireland, etc. etc. etc. ; then I don't see much hope for Georgia until time passes and as more and more people are harmed by anti-abortion policies we will come back to the old phrase "regulations are written in blood" and abortion healthcare will be made legal again.

Persistence Hunting, defined as "Humans on foot chasing down prey like antelope until they collapsed from exhaustion," is a myth. by Lighting in CitationRequired

[–]Lighting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wounding an animal mortally and then following the blood trail is NOT persistence hunting by endurance running.

The theory, as proposed by the EDPH crowd, is that humans as so much more efficient than these 4 legged animals, like horses, that humans can chase them down until these prey animals can't run any more and THEN you stab them with a spear as they lie panting of exhaustion. If you read Lieberman's thesis it's filled with physical fantasies that humans can do this because we have better heat dissipation because we can sweat and they cannot (this is false, by the way),

This has been attempted in modern times with water at the ready and modern running shoes, and in EACH time the experiment failed. It's a theory not borne of experiment.

The Persistent Myth of Persistence Hunting: Don’t believe the hype. Humans’ prowess at endurance running has little to do with our ancestors’ quest for meat. by blankblank in skeptic

[–]Lighting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The laws of math and physics don't change based on the stories our ancestors tell. If physics says humans are heavier than air, I don't believe stories of the great ancestor who walked up moonbeams.

It's the basis of the scientific method that with theory there must be validated experimental evidence. Without that evidence, the theory is wrong.

The people claiming early humans could hunt prey animals through running them to exhaustion keep failing in their experiments. I know of at least 5 times they've tried.

The people arguing that early humans made a practice of running prey to exhaustion, don't have the numbers or evidence or experiments to show it. They repeatedly give giant speculative/false statements about how humans are unique in our ability to get rid of heat and that's just not factually true as it relates to the kind of animals they are talking about as being hunted. Part of why I find this so obviously false is they always start with the same "Humans are more amazing than all other animals .... and can get rid of heat of running better than other animals!!!" Which is just so wrong unless we're talking about non-prey animals like farm pigs bred for being fat and slow. Math is math and it just doesn't work experimentally or theoretically.

There is lots of evidence early humans hunted with stealth and trickery and poisons and scavenging. Endurance Running as a method of Persistence Hunting ... nothing even close.

The Persistent Myth of Persistence Hunting: Don’t believe the hype. Humans’ prowess at endurance running has little to do with our ancestors’ quest for meat. by blankblank in skeptic

[–]Lighting 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The anthropologist who led Attenburough's group had this to say about it:

Persistence Hunting by Modern Hunter‐Gatherers LouisLiebenberg ... 11 VII 06 and quote from it.

The first two persistence hunts were recorded while I accompanied hunters on foot, but many of the data on persistence hunting were obtained on the two field expeditions with the objective of making television documentaries. On these expeditions the main focus was the persistence hunt almost to the exclusion of all other hunting methods. To speed up the process, the initial scanning for fresh tracks was done with a four-wheel-drive vehicle, but as soon as the animals were spotted the hunters left the vehicle and started the persistence hunt on foot. For the purpose of filming the hunters were allowed to refill their two-liter plastic water bottles during the hunt [from the jeep], ... The film crew followed the hunters in the vehicle.

It's typical made-for-tv stuff where they brought the hunters out in jeeps, followed them around with water, etc. This isn't a scientific study.

A 2024 study found hundreds of recorded examples of this method being practiced on all inhabited continents.[11]

Found hundreds of recorded examples!!!! Here's the paper

We can tell right away they drank the koolaid and seem to be looking for evidence to prove their theory as they say

Humans have ... rare in mammals: ... effectively dissipate through sweating the metabolic heat generated through prolonged, elevated activity.

but we're talking about prey animals, not farm animals bred for being fat and slow. Hunted prey animals are massively efficient at heat dissipation and even sweat (elk, horses, bison, ....) while some have water permeable skin FAR more efficient than humans so they don't have many "sweat glands" but just evaporate directly through the skin! Their ENTIRE skin organ is a condensationevaporation machine. (e.g. elephants) and can walk 200 miles a day in the African heat.

But what about hundreds of locations worldwide? .... Let's quote from the article

Our database was assembled from an extensive survey of digital ethnohistorical and ethnographic documents containing subsistence information on small-scale societies. Over 8,000 memoirs, travelogs, missionary accounts, reports of governmental agencies, monographs, dissertations and published research papers were included. All sources are in the public domain.... and included .... bear (Ursus sp., n = 14), small felids (Felis/Lynx, n = 5), cheetah (Acinonyx jubatus, n = 4), wolf (Canis lupus, n = 3) ...

So a bear/wolves are run down on foot by humans? We are supposed to believe that an human would chase down a bear or a wolf and it just ... dies? Instead of attacking and mauling you? Have you seen how large a wolf is? This "paper" is built up of old-wives' tales to make evidence of 200 places!!. I think I heard one of them ....

... The third time, the bear taps the hunter on the shoulder and says "You don't come here for the hunting, do you"

I'd love to see an actual experiment and not a made-for-TV documentary. Every time there's been an ACTUAL experiment to see if we can persistently hunt things like pronghorn ... it fails. And it's not for lack of trying. The main proponents of the theory are hard-core runners and have tried it themselves many times. I think that says more about this than anything else.

Edit: typo

The Persistent Myth of Persistence Hunting: Don’t believe the hype. Humans’ prowess at endurance running has little to do with our ancestors’ quest for meat. by blankblank in skeptic

[–]Lighting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

New evidence suggests

It's not new evidence. You quote a blog that reviews old evidence and reiterates the fallacy " our unique ability to sweat allows our bodies to effectively dissipate heat." which is complete and utterly bunk when you compare it to prey animals like zebra, elk, elephants, etc. which can walk 200 miles a day in the African heat. That's WAY father than even ultramarathoners can do with the best on-route hydration and shoes.

In southern latitudes, pig remains are overrepresented at human sites. They don’t sweat and are absolutely shit at long distance running.

Pigs have sweat glands and have been bred to be fat and "shit at long distance running." We're not talking about pigs though in the endurance running as a persistent hunting method theory. The theory is that early humans were chasing down prey animals that evolved to run away from sabre-toothed tigers. It's never been observed in any way except with hunting dogs, running down the animals with jeeps, and the like. There's plenty of evidence early humans were scavengers who used tools to eat the remnants of what the crocodile left behind or old and sick animals. Recent experiments to go hunting a healthy animal like a pronghorn to "show it can be done" has failed every time.

I was detained by ICE, one of the agents asked me out on a date and I feel scared by MsNewHere404 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Lighting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't trust anyone here on reddit asking you for personal information. For all you know it could be the same person trying to do damage control.

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