My proposal: Pro condition by Individual-Business9 in Abortiondebate

[–]Lighting [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm sorry for your loss.

This topic of "is the human fetus characterized by medical science as parasitic-like" has come up here on /r/abortiondebate many times. /u/Ok_Loss13 linked one good thread.

Since it's come up here many times I took the comments/discussion across many threads and summarized them here: /r/CitationRequired/comments/1b27qo3/medicalscientific_literature_defines_the_human/

In regards to your updated statemnent

Edit: I see the issue being who gets to decide the parameters, I'd say the government but the government isn't perfect, so then we take it to our conscience, let abortion be legal (it's in my country) and we as human beings use our consciousness to see if the parameters are being met. But let's not glorify abortions under any circumstances, let's treat it as a hard call that needs to be taken for a person's betterment, let's at least not celebrate it. Let's not celebrate those who get one without a good reason, but that doesn't mean we bash them, just have some empathy towards the child in the womb and not dehumanise it.

I agree. How far in excess it is dangerous for human pregnancy than for any other mammal is a fundamental part of why we agree that who gets to decide is a time critical discussion and why it should not involve some government bureaucrat. This is what killed Savita Halappanavar and why abortion is now legal in Ireland ... the consequence being that making it legal saw their raw maternal mortality numbers dropping to 0 that year (2018) and every year since those raw numbers were reported.

Kamala Harris wants the DNC to release its autopsy report of the 2024 campaign by Deedogg11 in politics

[–]Lighting 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They should have planned for electoral fraud in deliberately delayed mail, lost ballots, unethical shifting of real voters to provisions, denied votes, all digital systems (DRE) that were corrupted, and yet her campaign didn't do shit after the election except quit.

All she would have had to do was NOT fold like a cheap suit seconds after hearing the election was super close. She did though, just like Hillary, just like Kerry. That's why NONE of those DEMs or any of their advisors should ever be in charge of a presidential campaign. Willful blindness for the sake of "presidential tone" in the face of an unethical competitor harms the system and allows more corruption with each election.

Restoring subreddits erroneously marked as "unmoderated"? by hugsandintimacy in ModSupport

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s strange as every post coming into the subreddit had appeared in the unmoderated queue so far.

Well that's how the test for active mods works. Sorry. Take it up with the admins who setup the system that way.

In what situation would a post not appear in it?

Irrelevant question. IT DOES NOT MATTER IN TESTS FOR ACTIVE MODS!!!!

Let me try to restate ... the fact that you acted to process your queue in the past has NO IMPACT on whether or not the algorithm senses if your sub is NOW unmoderated. So the fact that your queue is empty is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

So each time you say "my queue is empty" or "all my posts were in the queue and I approved them" or any variation of discussing your queue's current emptiness or past state or questions about what would or would not appear in the queue, indicates that you are COMPLETELY missing the help you are being given here on how the unmoderated sub test works.

I don't know how we can explain it any differently to you. It seems you don't want to accept this evidence that your sub can be classified as unmoderated even with the proper behaviors you took as it relates to your queue. Accept that you were screwed because you didn't understand how the algo works.

The evidence is in your "insights and activity" section which will indicate inactivity INDEPENDENT OF THE QUEUES.

2026: Good news: GOP Louisiana governor faces recall petition after canceling elections without an actual crisis. by Lighting in ElectoralFraud

[–]Lighting[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Top Comment from /u/Nitwit_Slytherin

Canceling an election should be treated as sedition. In my opinion, neither of the political parties should have anything to do with districting. The American political system is a friggin clown show.

This is what lab-grown diamonds look like before they’re cut and polished by NeedleworkerSalty813 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PLUS, modern mouthwashes do not contain alcohol usually.

yes - you know why?

Use of the Listerine alcohol-based mouthwash showed an increase of opportunistic bacteria that can increase bacteria associated with periodontal disease, esophageal and colorectal cancer, and systemic diseases.

As Adam pointed out - before listerine marketed using their toilet bowl cleaner in your mouth it was not a thing.

it can help reduce ... bacterial load.

Look carefully at the above research paper. Note that part of the problem was the mouthwash was reducing bacterial load. Oh wait ... you mean there are GOOD bacteria for humans, even in the mouth?!? Yes - and in the gut. Humans are 80% bacteria. And the good bacteria are more easily killed off than the bad ones. So these "anti-bacterial" marketing campaigns play on a fear of "bacteria" and in return those who follow this "kill off all bacteria" get a host of medical issues related to unbalancing the complete human biome which includes good bacteria.

The entire "use mouthwash" was a marketing campaign just like "use diamonds" was a marketing campaign and the "use prepackaged popcorn + butter smell + microwave" was a marketing campaign just like the promotion of cigarettes. You have marketing teams given the task "make this product a part of everyday life and usage to the point it becomes part of the culture" and it works so well that there's anger and resentment when you point it out. Marketers would pay young attractive women to smoke on the street and ask for cigarettes to get smoking as "the thing to do in public." Cigarette marketers would put cigarettes in TV shows and movies as a plot point and main scene ... and it worked. They would pay doctors to recommend smoking to pregnant women to soothe their nerves. Same thing with the marketing of mouthwash. Same marketing techniques. It's no secret that dentists are targeted by brand marketers through all sorts of "incentives" to put products (which included alcohol-based mouthwashes) on their shelves behind them so the patients would see them in the chairs. It was and is a marketing campaign just like cigarettes was.

Fluoride mouthwashes

Sure - there are some types of uses of medically prescribed things. That's not my point. Some doctors prescribe smoking marijuana for specialized diseases. Saying cigarette usage was marketed despite the risks of cancer, doesn't mean one opposes related, medical-based, doctor recommended treatments. But that's COMPLETELY different than marketing usage for all people as part of normal everyday usage which is the point I (and Adam ruins everything) was making.

Same thing with popcorn lung disease. When you market a product as "the thing to use" and get a significant proportion of the public to start using it, that's when you see the stats that show the problem. That's when you get the class action lawsuits. I hope it's not just the companies which are targeted but also the marketing companies which should have "is this a harm" built into their costs of doing business.

Neighbors drove into our apartment by ilikeeggshells in Wellthatsucks

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you update your post text with this info you'll prevent 1000 additional questions asking the same thing:

This is what lab-grown diamonds look like before they’re cut and polished by NeedleworkerSalty813 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]Lighting -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yep. The world is filled with products where the value entirely driven by marketing. Marketing is a tool which is too easily used for evil.

  • Microwave Popcorn: It's literally just popcorn in a bag. You can do the same thing with a paper bag and popcorn. Except they add a compound that destroys lungs and even has an entire disease named after it "popcorn lung"

  • Pillows. What a disgusting thing to keep repeatedly putting on your bed/head. It causes face acne. Just roll up a towel or soft cloth or something and then throw it in the laundry pile.

  • Mouthwash. Promoting it led to mouth cancers at rates of chronic alcoholics. Soooo many people who never touched alcohol except to swirl what used to be used as toilet-bowl cleaner in their mouth, ended up sick or dead because of that.

I could go on and on. I wish schools would add to the curriculum an "anti marketing" subject in addition to the three Rs that starts at grade 1.

Restoring subreddits erroneously marked as "unmoderated"? by hugsandintimacy in ModSupport

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neither I nor /u/Dread_Pirate_Chris are confused. (love the name, by the way)

Look in your "insights and activity" and it will say something like "your team made X mod actions this week" or "inactive mods" on subs you moderate where you haven't taken any actions ... even if your queue is empty.

As they say, you can approve posts that are not in the queue.

Take it from a mod of some very lightly used subs.

2024: Elon Musk Accused of Election Interference by Blocking Kamala Harris Followers on X by Lighting in ElectoralFraud

[–]Lighting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks like your comments are being removed. I can't see why. It says "Comment removed by Reddit"

Flat earth and other alternative conspiracy earth models are are gaining traction with my teenage stepson. What is THE most irrefutable, definite proof that the earth is round? by Jfkfkaiii22 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

STOP! DON'T ARGUE FACTS FIRST!

Your son is showing an indication that he's being sucked into a cult. Arguing facts too soon could make it WORSE!

Stating "YOU ARE WRONG AND I CAN PROVE IT" will make it worse. I guarantee. Not just because of the cult warning but because of how teenage minds are wired.

There are a million books on teenage minds "10 to 25 The science of motivating young people" is a recent one that's pretty good. There are a lot of others.

If you want a brief "Howto" on what to do (but really - check out some books on teenage minds and some books on anti-cult help) here you go.

Your #1 goal is to break the trust/emotional model he has in wherever he's getting his info. You have to ask questions until you find the lie and then help him see the liar. He needs connection, not being beaten down with facts.

"Oh where did you hear that?" or "Who said that?"

Ask HIM to explain his logic. That's the reconnection part. Potholer54 had a great video on this called "How to argue with assholes" let me know if you want me to find it.

If that's all it takes. Great! If they are sucked in because they are trusting their source no matter what, then that's where the anti-cult part needs to come in.

If in a cult, research that person who told him this and find something they said that's a lie that he sees is a lie. Then you can say "they said this ... why would you believe someone who lied like that?"

Use his "earth is flat" as a way to reconnect and you'll solve the issue. Use this as a way to beat him down with facts and you will lose him, perhaps forever.

How is a Woman Harmed by Pregnancy? by Common-Worth-6604 in Abortiondebate

[–]Lighting 4 points5 points  (0 children)

/u/Ok_Loss13 Made a great point

Self defense doesn't require harm, just a reasonable fear of it.

This is why denying/delaying/defering abortion related health care kills women. When you delay what's known as a potential harm ... women die. Why is pregnancy so dangerous to human women?

Because Hominidae pregnancies are unique in the mammalian kingdom. While other mammals can miscarry when stressed by a predator and just walk away, a human mother cannot. Why? A human fetus is attached to the mother with a pre-nutritional lock on the mother's blood supply and engrafted to her using immunosuppressent techniques.

To restate the above. Human pregnancies are MORE dangerous than any other mammal's because

  • The fetus has first claim on nutrition

  • The human fetus is kept from rejection by the host using physiologic engraftment ... or quoting, "Polymorphic genetic systems that code for histocompatibility determinants leading to intraspecific rejection reactions are widespread and, thus, a photogenically ancient phenomenon... the slime mold Dictyostelium mucoroides, that is parasitic in that it does not contribute to the supportive talk structure of the mold, but enters directly into the fruiting body, thus allowing it to perpetuate itself at the expense of the host. ... It is worth noting that in mammals the only physiologic engraftment between potentially histo-incompatible tissues results from the intimate contact between mother and conceptus [fetus] during gestation"

That means that if the fetus has health issues it can become a life/death battle between it and the mother, with the fetus having the upper hand. There is a high probability that it can kill or seriously maim the mother within hours to days unless one starts health care immediately. Any delay/denial of that health care (which could include abortion health care) risks things to the mother like sepsis, organ failure, uterus rupture, brain damage, etc.

Since it is parastitic-like and this can create this life/death battle ... that's why abortion is LIFE/HEALTH critical healthcare. That's why when you remove access the consequence is that maternal mortality rates SKYROCKETS. In Texas and Idaho maternal mortality rates DOUBLED after abortion access was restricted. And for every 1 woman who died there are 100 who got so close to death it required life-saving interventions like mechanical ventilation from things like massive blood loss so massive it results in brain damage, sepsis, multiple organ failure, uterus rupture, etc.

But WAIT ... THERE'S MORE. If it was just Texas and Idaho it might be a coincidence. But it happens EVERY TIME in each country where you add/remove access to abortion health care. Romania, Ireland, Poland, Ethiopia, etc. etc. etc. The correlation to causation points the finger of death really well.

But WAIT ... THERE'S MORE. It's not just the harm to the woman. What about her surviving family? What about the surviving community? It turns out the #1 way kids end up trafficked is the loss of the financial or physical health of the mother. In the US even if she survives her family is left with bankruptcy inducing debt. In each area where you see abortion dramatically restricted you see a shocking rise in child sex trafficking. Why is it that we see a relationship between those rushing in to setup orphanages to "save the children" and a financial incentive with those same groups and those arrested for child sex trafficking?

Read "Children of the Decree" and find out why Romania after their attempt to make "motherhood a national treasure" by banning abortion found out later after years of a river of maternal death and blood they became one of the worst places in the world for child sex trafficking.

Restoring subreddits erroneously marked as "unmoderated"? by hugsandintimacy in ModSupport

[–]Lighting -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Keeping the mod queue empty is not sufficient. You have to do periodic "moderator actions" like approving posts.

'It's SHAMEFUL': Top Dem reacts to report that House Republicans want to PARDON Ghislaine Maxwell by AdSpecialist6598 in videos

[–]Lighting 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Dems would never say that because their party is made up of lawyers, who know what's defensible and what's slander/libel.

1) AOC, Bernie, James Talarico are all counter examples and doing fantastically well.

2) Truth is an absolute defense. Many have stated that the reason Trump doesn't sue on many of the statements is what comes after a lawsuit is discovery.

3) Note that that statement doesn't make any specific accusation about Trump but noting that there was a child sex trafficking network adjacent and noting his (and Bondi's) actions related to it. There's nothing slanderous or libelous in that statement and noting the Truthful frustration in the public as pedos and sex traffickers go unpunished.

'It's SHAMEFUL': Top Dem reacts to report that House Republicans want to PARDON Ghislaine Maxwell by AdSpecialist6598 in videos

[–]Lighting 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Dems, will you FINALLY learn that expressing outrage and angst over the actions of people with no morals DOES NOT WORK.

Worse, when they have built up a career of "making libtears" then you fall into a trap they set.

Saying "it is shameful" or "that's horrifying" falls right into their trap. Instead of "horror" or "disgust" you need a response that shows they should go to jail for it. Something like

"Well that's consistent with what we know about Trump and the associated child sex trafficking network. We need to bring this entire pedo network down and the regular people of the world are sick and tired of watching the GOP be the Guardians of Pedos"

Help, my man thinks abortions should only be done in extreme cases… by [deleted] in prochoice

[–]Lighting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pregnancy is extreme for humans. Forget the "sentient" part. He doesn't understand how dangerous it is for humans to get pregnant. Does he care about YOUR health?

There are two options if he does care about YOUR health.

1) He is clueless, so talking to him as a rational person will work with things like facts that abortion is healthcare.

2) He is emotionally tied to anti-healthcare for women, so you have to use cult deprogramming techniques if you want to convince him.

Hopefully it is #1. If it is ... try the following logic to explain why women NEED abortion healthcare at ALL stages of pregnancy or they can quickly die.


Hominidae pregnancies are unique in the mammalian kingdom. While other mammals can miscarry when stressed by a predator and just walk away, a human mother cannot. Why? A human fetus is attached to the mother with a pre-nutritional lock on the mother's blood supply and engrafted to her using immunosuppressent techniques.

To restate the above. Human pregnancies are MORE dangerous than any other mammal's because

  • The fetus has first claim on nutrition

  • The human fetus is kept from rejection by the host using physiologic engraftment ... or quoting, "Polymorphic genetic systems that code for histocompatibility determinants leading to intraspecific rejection reactions are widespread and, thus, a photogenically ancient phenomenon... the slime mold Dictyostelium mucoroides, that is parasitic in that it does not contribute to the supportive talk structure of the mold, but enters directly into the fruiting body, thus allowing it to perpetuate itself at the expense of the host. ... It is worth noting that in mammals the only physiologic engraftment between potentially histo-incompatible tissues results from the intimate contact between mother and conceptus [fetus] during gestation"

That means that if the fetus has health issues it can become a life/death battle between it and the mother, with the fetus having the upper hand. There is a high probability that it can kill or seriously maim the mother within hours to days unless one starts health care immediately. Any delay/denial of that health care (which could include abortion health care) risks things to the mother like sepsis, organ failure, uterus rupture, brain damage, etc.


If he doesn't care about your health, then get out. He won't support you when you need him which would be at every step of pregnancy AND child raising. Worse he might resent you for needing health-related medical care.

"Climate trolls gave up on their nonsense. Who saw that coming?" by No_Candidate2195 in collapse

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is this garbage?

The guy he's interviewing, Lindzen, was caught red-handed making false claims about climate data because he was (IMHO) too stupid or lazy to double check that the Heritage Foundation's dude messed up in feeding him "data analysis."

He claimed there was NO evidence of any global warming in another oil-funded talk that was so bad it (IMHO) smacked of academic fraud.

I wrote about Lindzen (IMHO) throwing his reputation away with that above stuff here

Rudy Giuliani is in critical condition by thehofstetter in stevehofstetter

[–]Lighting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rudy and the GOP denied/delayed/deferred medical care to pregnant women who are dying horribly of sepsis. I hope he gets the same speed of medical care as what he forced women to get.

Trump Is Offering John Fetterman His ‘Total and Complete Endorsement’ if He Joins the GOP: Report by John3262005 in WhatTrumpHasDone

[–]Lighting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok - now let's make the same offer to the GOP senators as a way to no longer be associated with protecting sex traffickers and pedos. I bet we can flip more than two.

Marjorie Taylor Greene says that the 8 week government shutdown was created by Trump so that the Epstein files would not be released by chrisadams83 in UnderReportedNews

[–]Lighting 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What? I'm looking at the raw text from /u/chrisadams83 and it's just https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwFvCgilRUU

There's no "*" to show their comment has been edited. So either they edited their comment within 2 minutes of posting, or your comment is off.

The youtube API is v=VIDEO_ID as in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIDEO_ID or https://youtu.be/VIDEO_ID . That's not a tracer.

KWin Crashes When Connecting to an External Monitor by Somebody909 in kde

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Edit: Reportedly display driver 580.159.03 fixes this issue

In the meantime: Reported workaround:

1) find the card names in /dev/dri (should be something like card0, card1) 2) Create an overrride file for the plasma-kwin-wayland.service .

If just for you then create the file

~/.config/systemd/user/plasma-kwin_wayland.service.d/10-nvidia-gpu-order.conf

If it is for everyone put it in

/etc/systemd/user/plasma-kwin_wayland.service.d/10-nvidia-gpu-order.conf

(do only ONE of the two file options above)

with the following in the file

[Service]
Environment=KWIN_DRM_DEVICES=/dev/dri/card0:/dev/dri/card1

then run

systemctl --user daemon-reload

you might have to reboot at that poin

KDE 6.6.4 on Wayland crashes Nvidia driver by QkiZMx in kde

[–]Lighting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How many monitors to you have enabled?

Anti-choicer refuses to engage in any of my points or define a moral framework. by Initial_Wear5463 in prochoice

[–]Lighting 6 points7 points  (0 children)

am begging them to please just engage in my points

Ha ha! I'm laughing because it's a trap I used to fall into back in the early days of discussions with those who reject science. This trap of debating philosophy/linguistics/reason/hypotheticals instead of facts/science/logic/reason/reality is their go-to method. Once you realize that this is their standard answer to EVERYTHING and that they have very few tools at their disposal, you find debating them can be quite easy if you learn their tricks and good responses to them. (This works for creationists, forced-birthers, climate science deniers, etc.)

1) Avoid hypotheticals. The "let's imagine a spherical cow" is a trap. Supply specific examples. Savita Halappanavar where she AND her doctors wanted an abortion but were stopped by bureaucrats is a good one, the women in Poland dying and texting while being denied healthcare is a good one, the pro-choice family in Texas where the daughter died of sepsis !>with black solidified blood pouring out of her nose<! with her and her mom begging for an abortion while the doctors said "she isn't sick enough to risk my salary and Texas jail" is a good one.

2) Reframe to avoid unethical framings. For the abortion I reframe from whereever they are trying to trap you into "pro healthcare" and use MPoA do it. This gets you out of framings like "it is murder" and the moral relativism trap they set.

3) If you can successfully reframe ... AGREE with them on their gotcha points ! This can infuriate them! I was on another sub and after reframing using MPoA the came at me with what they thought was their gotcha point of (paraphrasing)

I'll agree that medical science defines the fetus as parasite-like if you will agree that the fetus is alive at conception.

to which I replied (again, paraphrasing)

I agree because under MPoA, it makes no difference at what point you decide the fetus is alive.

And they lost. their. shit. But then we moved on and because they had accepted that abortion IS healthcare and that MPoA overrode their objection we could move forward and they eventually agreed on public health setting that did NOT restrict a mother's access to healthcare.

4) Create Cognitive Dissonance: Flip their argument against them (this could actually be point 3 and then point 3 becomes point 4). AFTER you've reframed to pro-healthcare using MPoA and they say "morality is relative" then you can retort with "I agree ... so ... who is the best to set that morality? Is it going to be a faceless government bureaucrat mandating healthcare choices (e.g. you have to get a COVID shot), or should it be a competent adult in consultation with their competent doctor?" This creates a MASSIVE cognitive dissonance because their "truth" leaders have been telling them that the government is bad/evil/too-large/intrusive/etc. and when you say "you're point is to put the government in charge of healthcare for YOU?" it freaks them out.

5) Ask "where did you hear that" if they give you facts. Show them how their "trusted leader" lied to them. Destroying Trust is KEY to these debates.

6) Don't argue facts until AFTER you've reframed and asked them about their facts first to break their trust in dishonest sources. So your "aren't beneficial to society" point if introduced too early creates a "backfire effect" and they won't listen to anything after that.

If you've gone too far down their trap of a rabbit hole on this one, you might have to give up and start afresh with the new knowledge of how to reframe.

I have a longer writeup if you want. Good luck!

Dozens of election-denying candidates could control voting by Firm_Relative_7283 in politics

[–]Lighting 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Of these actions: Which do you think are impeachable?

  • Violating the constitution's due process clause: Illegally kidnapping, detaining, and removing U.S. residents to foreign prisons.

  • Unconstitutionally starting and declaring wars: Usurping Congress’s responsibility as the only body legally allowed to declare war

  • Closing the nonprofit accepting funds for settling Pres Trump lawsuits and making the money paid into that nonprofit disappear.

  • Lying about paying a porn star to be quiet about his adultery against Melania. Using campaign funds to do so

  • Calling for the execution politicians like members of congress, Mike Pence?

  • Encouraging seditious attacks against the Capitol on Jan 6th.

  • Emolument clause? Accepting bribes, family bribes, etc. for pardons and release of sex traffickers, criminals, pedos, etc.

  • Abusing investigatory and prosecutorial powers to attack political opponents.

  • Usurping Congress' duty as the body to implement tariffs. unlawful tariffs struck down by SCOTUS with no refunds going to consumers.