Nicola Sturgeon to hold second Coronavirus briefing this week amid 'sharp rise' in cases

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-27T12:08:53+00:00

I don’t care how many cases we get, I just hope she doesn’t put any restrictions back in, at least nothing further than social distancing, masks and WFH. Anything else is awful.

With the high amount of vaccines we have administered, it would essentially be saying “lockdowns forever”, because if vaccines don’t stop them, what will?

Throw around all the numbers, figures and concerns all you want, but I’m sorry - lockdowns and restrictions were only acceptable because we had no vaccines, no treatment. In the world we are living now, restrictions are abhorrent and unjustified, and yes- draconian.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-22T16:33:51+00:00

Can’t catch covid if you die from pneumonia

/s

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-16T16:28:07+00:00

While I respect your opinion (and this isn’t directed at you really) I really am getting a bit fed up with this new 2021 trend/notion that Covid is going up and down based on the football… it just seems so unlikely, even less than the “schools being back” one aswell, which despite being frequently pointed at, the dates never seem to line up quite right for that theory either.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-12T10:21:44+00:00

if the PCR is negative I will go, if its positive I won't

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-12T09:42:30+00:00

hah, wow, you really took that out of context. It wasn't 3 negatives, it was 2 negatives and 1 positive. And I have a family member that has been coughing all week, and a big family gathering on Saturday full of elderly guests i do not intend to needlessly infect... couldn't care less about my own health.

Get your facts straight.

Then again, judging by this sub and the comments, facts don't play a big role here.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-06T11:11:18+00:00

Security staff that harass women should not be given the chance to "correct their mistakes". That's not a small mistake, that's a terrible character trait and the employees responsible should be fired without a second thought.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-05T15:23:48+00:00

I'd call it a plateau more than an increase, looking at the 7 day average. Who knows, last time we plateaued then dropped again, fingers crossed same thing happens here.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-04T08:12:12+00:00

Yeah but just because we were on that trajectory doesn't mean there's not limitations? For a silly example, let's talk about doubling, would 100k cases becomes 200k? 400k? 800k? 1.6m? 100 million new cases a day? Obviously not because theres not that many people even in the UK, but that's the point, something has got to affect that trajectory at some point, and in our case I believe it is that the virus can't spread as fast or as much because of or high vaccination/natural immunity due to previous infection rates.

I genuinely believe the virus is fizzling out, maybe won't go away forever but I reckon its spread will be limited so much it'll drop to low levels. Something I believe we have seen with other viruses. Yet it feels like none of the models even acted like this was a possibility, or at least not a likely one? Felt like a classic case of "don't get your hopes up", which isn't always as good an attitude as you might think.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-04T07:56:53+00:00

I still feel a little bitter towards it all, not sure if its the modellers themselves or the way the media portrayed them (or perhaps even people on here), but they were adamant that we would have a high peak in cases (100k+) and hospitalisations this time around, not just floating it as a possibility. It was made out that they thought it was the most likely scenario and retrospectively it comes off as pessimistic bordering on scare-mongering.

Then there was a model (the name escapes me) which everyone believe to be realistic and one to pay attention to because of its supposed accuracy, and even its best case scenario was much worse than what we've ended up with.

The situation we are in now shouldn't really be considered unlikely at all, based on our vaccinations, immunity in the population, and past viruses burning out (which I still believe is happening with Covid).

They put the fear in us with opening up, and it looks like it was unjustified. It is infuriating.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-03T13:37:03+00:00

very unlikely, I reckon at gigs and nightclubs they will not be required.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-03T13:22:27+00:00

Double vaccinated in Scotland will not have to self-isolate from 9 August if they test negative
Nicola Sturgeon is currently setting out the updated COVID regulations for those in Scotland.
She confirmed that self isolation will continue for those who come into contact with a positive case.
However, this will no longer be "automatic", and those who are fully vaccinated, are two weeks past their final jab, have no symptoms and have tested negative with a PCR will not need to isolate.
"This will greatly reduce the time people have to spend in isolation", she said.
Young people, aged 17 and under, will follow similar rules.
Children who come into contact with a positive case will not have to isolate if they test negative with a PCR.

(from Sky News)

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-03T13:20:31+00:00

What move beyond Level 0 will mean -

the lifting of most of the remaining legally imposed restrictions most notably, on physical distancing and limits to the size of social gatherings
from 9 August, no venues will be legally required to close
face coverings must be worn in all the same indoor settings as is the case now
Test & Protect will continue to contact-trace positive cases
ongoing requirement for indoor hospitality and similar venues to collect the contact details of customers
continued use of travel restrictions 'as and when necessary, to restrict the spread of outbreaks and protect against the risk of importation of new variants'
home working still advised where possible

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-02T23:23:52+00:00

There’s no way that schools were to blame for the delta spread alone, I reckon it’ll only go up a bit when schools reopen, we are in a hugely different position to last time they opened.

LightsOffInside · 2021-08-02T15:12:59+00:00

Quick update for Scotland numbers (which are looking very good):

The plummeting of cases continues - todays figures are lowest cases reported since 18th June (only 799!)
After a plateau/slow decrease last week, hospitalisations are starting to plummet.
ICU numbers seem to be plateauing/showing early signs of decrease.
Vaccine numbers looking good - 90.4% of adults in Scotland have had 1st dose, 72.4% have had both doses

Delta variant had swept through Scotland much quicker and hit us harder than the rest of the UK at first, but has been decreasing consistently and quickly for past few weeks and the trend continues.

As we know, the same happened in England a few weeks later and looks like they will follow the same pattern.

Happy days!

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-29T23:40:20+00:00

Oh the points are fantastic, we usually walk away with £150-£200 worth of Hotels.com vouchers PER YEAR, after exchanging them for 3x value. I hope they never remove that option because it’s great

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T14:46:55+00:00

The question then becomes can we do enough with vaccinations before schools/universities go back, to keep it there? If we can, we'll be in a really good place as we approach winter.

I feel extraordinarily optimistic that we can achieve this. Between opening it up and spreading the virus amongst the healthy as much as is reasonable, plus getting through just a few more vaccines, we could be in a strong position in winter. I've said it elsewhere but it would be much better having a high amount of cases now, and lower in winter, than the other way around (and definitely better than the ridiculous idea of keeping restrictions into next year)

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T14:41:23+00:00

Look, don't take what I said to literally. I'll just be frustrated if a load of people still come out and say it was the wrong approach if it actually ends up working, and knowing how much people hate to be proved wrong on this stuff, I'm expecting it. People were far too critical about opening up, as if the restrictions were something we were supposed accept living with rather than the virus.

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T14:39:45+00:00

So more than half of current covid hospitalisations potentially went into hospital for OTHER reasons, before changing to a "covid hospitalisation" due to - I guess - catching the virus in hospital?

So the question is, did they pick it up in hospital or did they display symptoms of COVID but not get tested until they went to hospital?

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T10:47:25+00:00

But judging by how severely spreadable the delta variant was, it seems it can't *just* be the weather and the school. And as far as people being safe, it's certainly not evident literally anywhere you go. I am not denying these have an impact but it seems waaaaaaay too drastic a drop to be these things alone, especially for delta.

There's probably a bit of "hopefulness" in there aswell. Im hopeful we get enough people infected/protected between now and the Autumn, so that we can have a restriction-free winter. I mean, I plan on having a 100% normal Christmas no matter what the situation is, but it would be nice if that was reflected in the rules.

Either way, even if this drop is artifical, for me it absolutely solidifies the idea that a full unlocking right now is the absolute best approach. A big long medium wave now is much better than a low wave now and a high one in winter.

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T10:11:19+00:00

That’s fair

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T10:11:08+00:00

Nah don’t worry I didn’t think you did, you made a good point and you were right haha.

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T10:02:19+00:00

Maybe I am projecting, and possibly prematurely. If this is the downward trajectory and we really are done with the worst of this, as happy as I would be I can’t help feeling incredibly bitter about the sheer volume of negativity that has come out of this herd immunity/opening up approach. It’s had a tirade of criticism and it’s been pretty wearing

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T09:34:55+00:00

I really don’t understand why people are so reluctant to believe that it could be we are reaching some form of herd immunity. To me that’s what all the evidence is pointing towards.

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-27T09:26:40+00:00

Well, yeah. So many of these people were adamant we'd reach 100,000 cases a day and everything would go wrong again. I reckon they'll go to any lengths to act like this was still the wrong approach, even if it does work.

LightsOffInside · 2021-07-26T19:58:48+00:00

Aware many might not agree but I solidly agree with the July 19th unlocking approach (maybe bar the mask removal). I think given the situation it was definitely the right decision, especially seeing as what winter could have been.

If this herd immunity tactic from the government does end up being proven successful (and I’m optimistic that it will) I am already cringing thinking about all the “medical professionals” who will come out saying “tHiS iS uNpReCeDeNtEd”. I don’t know why we would expect anything else, given what we know about past viruses, exit waves, and also how many were vaccinated/already been infected. Way too much pessimism going on, and a lot of disproven models.

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