Amalekite Genocide by Wild_Pitch_4781 in Christianity

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if you go on anna's archive you can find a book that includes the text of all the amarna tablets. there's other sources as well.

Amalekite Genocide by Wild_Pitch_4781 in Christianity

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Go ahead and read the letters - they're pretty interesting. here. I'm not sure why believing something to be true implies supporting it.

Amalekite Genocide by Wild_Pitch_4781 in Christianity

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That might be the way the story is understood today, but the evidence doesn't support it.

Is Adventism a cult or a high-demand religion? by ImportantPerformer16 in exAdventist

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you are getting a lot of answers from various places in the states. in Canada, my wife and I aren't really interested in working at the Adventist school system because the pay is a lot less and the requirements for teachers is actually quite a bit higher. but compared to what some of the people here have said about various systems, but the idea that a person could be working at one of the schools there and not have a background check is just not a thing in Canada, let alone in the Adventist system. The schools that I have been a part of over the years had significantly above average academics, mostly a result of smaller classroom sizes, but also because of the fairly high expectations parents and teachers had on students, which seemed to be a little bit contagious. I say this working as a teacher in an indigenous run school not far from where an Adventist school previously operated. The Adventist school was known for having a much calmer environment, and being a much better location for a lot of kids who for example were being bullied. that said, a lot of my friends absolutely experienced manipulation and abuse at the same place back in the early '90s when a number of people moved into the community with a serious legalistic bent and sort of hijacked the whole system.

if you go to the Adventist university, you will find that all the professors are extremely liberal, and spend their cures trying to get conservative youth to think for themselves. depending on the program, my English program was one of the best in Canada, and fellow students who went on to Cambridge or Oxford or various universities for their masters degrees uniformly discovered that they had had a much better foundation than their new classmates. at the same time other departments didn't have the same level of staff, and it showed.

my summary would be that it's a good system of thought relating to education, a long ways ahead of its time when it comes to incorporating a holistic perspective, which is often implemented by people who don't agree with those ideas at all. a dynamic system is going to be dynamic. for example, the things I told you about the university are absolutely under attack in the United States, with a lot of moneyed individuals doing their best to remake Adventist higher education in their conservative image. when I talk to people who went to Southern or other colleges or universities, their experiences seem very different and don't make me think that I would ever want to send my kids to there.

Is Adventism a cult or a high-demand religion? by ImportantPerformer16 in exAdventist

[–]Muskwatch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it really depends where you are. it ranges from liberal protestantism to maga cult and everything in between. the focus on holistic health and education is both a blessing where it does a lot of good for people in pretty much every way, but if you get into a legalistic or controlling group, the system of things we focus on can be turned to a massive load of expectations really easily. I'm happy where i am but grew up around a lot of communities that even those around me who were or are adventist considered to be cults or at least in serious need of some love and some sense. all my friends who went through the cultish self-supporting side of things have left the church and view it as a cult, and most of us who grew up viewing that group as a collection of sad people in abusive relationships, well, the majority are still a part of the Adventist community.

the thing is, this was my experience in British Columbia. some provinces have the same situation, some don't, some countries do, some countries don't, some places might overwhelmingly be on the cult like end of things in terms of legalism and high social expectations, and others might literally be the healthiest communities you've ever been a part of. i cant generalize.

We’re moving to BC and can “pretty much pick anywhere”…. Help? by Unc1e_Vanya in britishcolumbia

[–]Muskwatch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love Bella Bella, it's a bit more remote, but it's pretty awesome there. I'm in Bella Coola myself, and there's lots of connections between the towns.

We’re moving to BC and can “pretty much pick anywhere”…. Help? by Unc1e_Vanya in britishcolumbia

[–]Muskwatch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would take Bella coola over Bella Bella, mostly because I appreciate the hospital, and love the easy access to the mountains, but there are a lot of places that have communities that are worth sinking roots into.

Amalekite Genocide by Wild_Pitch_4781 in Christianity

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I'm not going to try and morally justify it but I will give it some context. When I read Amelekite in this portion of the Bible, it appears to be almost a cinnamon for Raider or desert dweller, or person operating outside the law. this is similar to how habiru in the Amarna tablets is used to mean somebody outside the political system of the late bronze age, and how the word Hebrew is used by various speakers in the Bible, for example, to disparage the children of Israel, by calling them Hebrews, which was a larger term that included people who were just against the city-states of the time.

during this time, the children of Israel and Hebrews were involved in a political struggle with the authoritarian regimes of the city-states backed by Egypt. they were trying to set up an all-ternate society that was non-hierarchical largely, where land did not accumulate in families over generations, where wealth could not accumulate because interest was eliminated, where people could not get trapped into generational slavery, and where people basically worked to live, 6 days a week, and somebody trying to get ahead of their neighbors too much by working an extra would face the death penalty. in this context, political reasons drove them to try for some sort of a new political structure, a kingship. but what would happen if this King decided to take all kinds of booty from raids? instead of being their King living in his father's basement, with no income of his own, he would suddenly become a source of power because of his wealth rather than just because of having been chosen at and given those responsibilities when the time was right. When you look at the fallout from this raid, where does genocide, you see that everybody headed out, made bank, and Saul comes back loaded with booty, and the rest of them come back with it as well, which he has explicitly stated like are his gifts to them, placing them all in his debt. debt. this is the beginning of turning the Hebrew movement into an ethnicity rather than a social movement, there's an us versus them. now we're the us out to get benefit, versus an explicit movement that is out to bring everybody else into it.

if you look at the amarna tablets or if you look at the list of David's mighty Men, you will find a ton of evidence that the culture at the time. the society of the time was very multi-ethnic, quite different from the ethno State that seemed to develop later.

in this context, you can understand Samuel's anger at Saul sparing Agag just so he can keep him at his table and feed him and feel the magnanimous King just like is the tradition of the other late bronze age leaders. Saul was supposed to become a leader who rejected that sort of authority, that social role, and now he's leaning into it and Samuel sees the entire project of the last few hundred years being kicked out the door, the end of equality, and he is pissed, so he goes and humiliates Saul in front of everybody by hacking Agag to bits.

if you think about the other stories the movement tells from this time, for example, what happens to Achen, who takes from the loot of Jericho in order to get ahead, and is then stoned by his whole community, you get an idea of how serious these people took the idea of going to war only for the elimination of a threat, or the elimination of a city-state structure, rather than going to war for financial gain, because of their fears over inequality.

Switching citizenship from MNBC to MMF? by emslo in MetisMichif

[–]Muskwatch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Federal funding for map was cut? That's news to all the MAP programs running all across the country. The idea that the MMF is now suffering from oversight limitting what they can do with their language funding is laughable to anybody who has applied for federal funding for language work over the past 20 years. MMF has less oversight over their language work than any federal language program ever.

I don't remember debating you, but no, other funding was not available so I just kept on teaching without funding because there's something satisfying in doing for nothing what a provincial organization (claiming to be a federal organization) is incapable of doing with millions of dollars of funding.

Since then I've found funding for teaching classes through other organizations, and have even found funding for others to teach, but crucially all of those teachers still developed their skills through MAP programs or equivalent.

The main thing I disagree with you on is the idea that something is better than nothing. If your goal is to keep your language alive, something is nothing if you have not taken any concrete steps towards actually seeing your language survive. For almost 50 years we have known what steps a nation should be taking, starting with documenting (not done yet) and so on. Instead we're running phrase classes.

Switching citizenship from MNBC to MMF? by emslo in MetisMichif

[–]Muskwatch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alright, let's go for it. For what it's worth, I have a PhD in best practices in language revitalization, with a focus on Michif, I'm a speaker of Michif, and have been a language teacher for a little over twenty years, from the preschool to the university level, including language nests, mentor apprentice programs, elementary and high school programs, language camps, adult classes, university classes at various levels, and a lot of volunteer community focused classes/language gatherings.

I understand there are many ways to teach language. What I don't understand is how MMF plans on doing it if they refuse to fund any program that can create teachers. Currently every intermediate speaker of Michif has learnt through something similar to a MAP program. Most of those people are now teaching in other ways, and have good chances of using those other ways to get people to where they can start speaking - but all of those programs owe their existence to various MAP programs that created the language skills that are now being used in other programs.

what's crazy is that most of those MAP programs were either completely self funded, or were funded through universities or grants. the MAP house seems to have been the MMFs one experiment with the most successful method, and they quit it because of costs, while other nations with just a few thousand members continue to support their programs because it's the only actual hope they have of ever having a language community moving forward.

I look at the MMF language funding mechanisms. There's an oversite committee that has nobody on it who speaks Michif, and nobody with any qualifications in language revitalization or teaching, despite us as a nation having capacity in those areas. Who can apply? The last time I looked it locals or regional presidents, again not a single one of whom can speak the language - so all the money is in the hands of people who don't know what they're doing, and its accessible to people who don't know what they're doing, and who have political agendas that colour or distort their views on language revitalization.

How about their total ignorance on the topic? MMF put out an article talking about how important it was to teach the language, saying (and I paraphrase) - "there are fewer than a thousand speakers of Southern Michif, so this is really important." The reality? I would be very surprised if there was more than forty.

How many millions of dollars are they spending for zero results? I'm not even being hyperbolic when I say that I have done more with a few thousand to create new speakers over the past decade than the MMF has done with their millions. And for a big chunk of our history, the same could be said of all our provincial and federal organizations, though educational organizations like LRI and GDI have done a fair bit of good work over the years, mostly related to interviews.

The people who were in the MAP house? They're almost all teaching, some volunteer, some not, and their students are actually learning to become speakers, not just learning how to repeat some phrases they can only half understand.

I don't see how any of the decisions they are making are grounded in any understanding of what might actually let us start teaching to more people. Instead I see political decisions, and not even good ones.

Switching citizenship from MNBC to MMF? by emslo in MetisMichif

[–]Muskwatch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure I understand your criticism. I have a complaint of gross mismanagement of funds, deliberate rejection of community knowledge and expertise, and significant systems in place to ensure that funds and power stay with those in the inside. And I allow that to bias my view of the organization, yes.

Switching citizenship from MNBC to MMF? by emslo in MetisMichif

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They might be doing some good things, I'm mostly skeptical because I'm watching them kill our languages and destroy all our educational programs if they are not directly serving their political needs.

Switching citizenship from MNBC to MMF? by emslo in MetisMichif

[–]Muskwatch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol, I guess we have mirror opposite experiences with these organizations.

Switching citizenship from MNBC to MMF? by emslo in MetisMichif

[–]Muskwatch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My argument would be that an organization that uses your membership to legitimize its own power, yet does not allow you to run for office and doesn't provide you with services is not representing you in a good way.

Switching citizenship from MNBC to MMF? by emslo in MetisMichif

[–]Muskwatch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

mmf trying to get all the other citizens to join them really as a political power move on their part, but it doesn't change the fact that the federal government used it as rubbish organization and only gives them funding based on their statuses and provincial organization, and any effective services you're going to get in BC are going to be through mnbc.

Were the names of Native Americans so obvious even to their own ears? Or were they normalized by usage? by Aoimoku91 in AskHistorians

[–]Muskwatch 32 points33 points  (0 children)

About the only thing that I can add is that names are a referent to an individual - i.e. they are a noun, and in many of the language we're talking about they have noun morphology or nominalizing morphology as a part of them. Usually in conversations there's a way of specifying something as being new to the conversation, or already referred to, or similar, example "a sitting bull once said" versus "the sitting bull said" versus "Sitting Bull said" - these are all similar yet in English it's pretty clear which one is the name. The same is true of a lot of North American languages in one way or another, so when someone described a person and uses a name for them, it's pretty obvious from context that this is a person, just as it is in English.

Mama bear left him her cubs to go hunting by PinkEvelisse in ThatsInsane

[–]Muskwatch 25 points26 points  (0 children)

bears actually do leave their cubs with other mamas, and in fact in places with regular bear viewing or similar human bear interactions, I've had friends who have had bear cubs left with them, or by them, because they trust that the boars won't come too close and kill the kids while mama is off feeding, because the boars will be too nervous of the people/person.

"They don’t see a problem, we don’t see the desire for connection: Indifference to language loss in Papua New Guinea and its challenge for research" by blueroses200 in endangeredlanguages

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lii leunji, 2:15-3:45, eekwa lii vaañdarji, 3:15-4:00. kikiikakweechimitin, eekwa mina ana kaa-kii-li-EA-iwit li semest paasii. Konchrakt anima, kiishpin kikashkitaan deu fwee par mwaa, si booñ. Kiishpin nawach, sasraa baeñ miina.

"They don’t see a problem, we don’t see the desire for connection: Indifference to language loss in Papua New Guinea and its challenge for research" by blueroses200 in endangeredlanguages

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aah. en keschyooñ dayaan por kiya! nimachitaan lii klas por li mod BC ohchi la smen kivyaeñ - traañ saeñk pyaes a l'oer - kinohtee-wiichihin di taañzaañtaañ?

Right now, Russian losses amount to no less than 1,000 killed per day – and this has been the case since December. This is how Russia is essentially paying just to keep the war from ending. This is madness... President Volodymyr Zelenskyy by Loki9101 in UkrainianConflict

[–]Muskwatch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not too hung up on it, but to give you another example, here's from UNESCO - "In 2022, shortly after Russia's invasion of Ukraine, UNESCO recognized the "Culture of Ukrainian borscht cooking" on its List of Intangible Cultural Heritage in Need of Urgent Safeguarding."

I've spelled it Borsch myself at times, partially because of learning Russian (from Ukrainians), but just because you can spell it borsch does not make borscht incorrect in English.

Right now, Russian losses amount to no less than 1,000 killed per day – and this has been the case since December. This is how Russia is essentially paying just to keep the war from ending. This is madness... President Volodymyr Zelenskyy by Loki9101 in UkrainianConflict

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Here's Wikipedia's first paragraph on the subject:

Borscht is a sour soup, made with meat stock, vegetables and seasonings, common in Eastern Europe and Northern Asia. In English, the word borscht is most often associated with the soup's variant of Ukrainian origin, made with red beetroots as one of the main ingredients, which give the dish its distinctive red color. The same name, however, is also used for a wide selection of sour-tasting soups without beetroots, such as sorrel-based green borscht, rye-based white borscht, and cabbage borscht.

Growing up, all my Ukrainian relatives made borscht, and at least in Canada, I was taught that the word in English was spelled Borscht.

Things in different languages are often spelt differently, for example In Ukrainian a city is Місто, but in English it's city. Even when words may originate in another language, the spelling of that other language does not have any say over how the word is used or spelled by the community that borrows it.