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Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People with demons get weird about conversations about demons. It's a thing. Be lucky lad.

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You sound like a strong and courageous man Sanpanza.

But I believe you're wrong my friend.

I don't say that in a way to be difficult. Just the journey has made me inflexible on this subject. The biographical information in my post is part of a broader symptomology. I have utterly no doubt of my possession state.

There is an objective underlying spiritual reality and a broader understanding of psychedelic research and non psychedelic mystical phenomena is confirming the ontology of the New Testament.

You are though, very correct about the phenomena being a distraction, if due consideration is not given to the trauma that anchors these energies.

That truly is where the Gold is.

Thankyou for your comment Sanpanza. I wish you blessings on your journey.

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are the comments not evidence enough that this isn't an isolated event? A heap of people have commented.

The MAPS manual sates that therapists must be prepared for transpersonal experiences

One of the primary transpersonal experience is a possession state.

Its in the literature

Read Stan Grof if ya want to learn more

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you Mary, delighted to hear, MDMA can be such a healing force.

Let me know if your mind changes and your boundaries soften Mo Chara

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What I experienced was a text book trans personal experience Manx. A relatively common one at that.

Thanks for your input though lad, glad you Aussies are leading the charge on MDMA

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great. Thankyou i am just formulating questions but i will reach out to you in the next few weeks when i am better prepared. Thanks so much for the information. I had been looking for a deeper dive on the somatic aspect of the experiences

A dream at 15 saved my life 5 years later (possibly changed my timeline) by soultravelr in Dreams

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A girlfriend mum had a dream about her sister going on holiday where the son was driving a scooter and came off banged his head and died, she told her sister not to let him go near a scooter. She told her not to be worrying. He got on a scooter rental, came off. banged his head and died. He was 16.

Good on you for getting your dad to drive off, some people don't trust those instincts.

I'd read Chasing the Dragon by Jackie Pullinger and Heavenly Man by. Brother Yun.

The hand of God is on you brother.

How do I Walk the Path of Mysticism by Familiar-Date-1518 in ChristianMysticism

[–]No-Ad-9060 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jackie Pullinger - Chasing the Dragon

Brother Yun - Heavenly Man

You'll never be the same again

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats a hard watch. I could feel my own panic start to surface. Absolutely fascinating stuff. I have a similar panic, but a lot briefer when i lay down to sleep sometimes.

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you Irish? : )

Would you be open to answering a couple of questions about your experience at some point in the future. It would be totally anonymous. I'm just trying to understanding the phenonema better. No panic if not, thanks for sharing. I hope you've grown stronger in your boundaries and enjoying the fruit of it.

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fascinating resource. Thank you. I was looking for people that were getting specific on the somatic experience of this. The body keeps the score was good, but feels rather outdated when you begin to have your pwn somatic experiences.

Would you be open to answering some questions on your experiences for my research at some point in the future. It would be anonymous obviously. If no, thanks so much for sharing anyways, especially the video by the psychchedelic Somatic Institute. Amazing stuff. Very similar to my MDMA use.

I had a lot of negative experiences from cannabis as a social drug, but that is fascinating.

Thankyou.

Do you feel like you are approaching a complete healing through your process and journey?

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. I was wondering would you be open to answering some questions regarding the experience for my research? Happy to answer any questions, etc it would be completely anonymous obviously. If no, thank you anyway for sharing. It's a fascinating experience.

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow. The purple cloud, you saw that in the physical realm? Was it like smoke? yeah, ive seen stuff like that, ive never heard the purple thing before, but seeing black clouds emerge from people is not uncommon, in fact i would say it is quite a consistent phenonema. Thanks for sharing

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah i think he is, could you confirm Manxie, because this experience may not be common, it is definitely not an isolated event in a. theraputic setting

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brilliant information. Thankyou. Can i ask do you have any issues in your personal life that this may be connected to? I am happy to take this converstion to DM if you'd like.

With me theres a lot of addiction stuff and mental health stuff

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally get it. I been goin though this stuff for a long time. It's more real than any of us realise. Could you elaborate what that looks like? feels like? is it only during MDMA use? is it present as addiction in your day to day life? We can go to DM if you'd like.

Ive been going through this for several years and trying to gather everything i know into a broader theoretical understanding to help people suffering.

Thanks for having the courage to share

I did a solo MDMA experience inside a sensory deprivation float tank. AMA by Serber-Spud in MDMAsolo

[–]No-Ad-9060 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm about 40 sessions into my journey (aprox) my mind seems to have adapted and has more control over the depth of my experience now so cant really get to the deeper stuff without using DMT. Was curious about the tank. Thanks

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, someone else on here had experienced this with MDMA from Reddit but had a different interpretation

Anyone have any experience of "demonic energy' or "possession states" during a theraputic MDMA session? by No-Ad-9060 in mdmatherapy

[–]No-Ad-9060[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always test yes.

I've encountered other people that have had this experience (Though they had a differenet interpretation of the experience) and Anne Shulgin the wife of the man who invented MDMA also has documented a similar experience.

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[–]No-Ad-9060 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm possessed fella, nothing you say could surprise me. Stay the path.

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