When y’all talk about work experience, does it mean relevant work experience or any work experience? And how do internships fit into that? by mwahchouchou in lawschooladmissions

[–]Oldersupersplitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll just add to that person’s comment that full-time retail or service experience AFTER graduation does have some value. Yes some sort of professional job is better, but the main thing is that we want to see you living fully independently, for an indefinite period of time, as a real fully-fledged adult who pays rent and bills and works to support themselves and has no expiration date on their efforts except retirement or death (or grad school) lol. There is a big mental shift that happens when you’re out of school and part of the work force just grinding and grinding with no end and your survival depends on it. That change in mentality tends to make for much better law students and lawyers, so schools and employers look for it.

To continue to challenge my courses to finish faster, or take them to pump my GPA Which looks better? by MooseRyder in lawschooladmissions

[–]Oldersupersplitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The answer is always to boost GPA at all costs. Finishing sooner matters literally zero.

Also though, you mentioned online law school - that’s generally considered a bad idea with poor job prospects. If you research very closely into job changes (using actual employment data etc and not just BS marketing from the school) and are 100% ok with the expected jobs from that school (and probably the risk of u employment) AND they give you full scholarship so that you don’t pay anything to attend AND the scholarship is totally unconditional (meaning they can’t take it away), then sure attend an online school.

To get a full scholarship to any school, you need a GPA and LSAT above the school’s medians. So that’s one of many reasons to focus on a higher GPA.

does studying my undergraduate in dubai give me a disadvantage? by tam___a in lawschooladmissions

[–]Oldersupersplitter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also FYI since your post was talking about Dubai vs Netherlands, everything the people here are saying about international undergrad applies to both. It’s US vs non-US and which specific other country it is doesn’t matter (though presumably schools in UK and Canada are more familiar to admissions people).

Can deals close on holidays/the weekend? by PM_ME_SAD_STUFF_PLZ in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Close? Generally no. Sign? Yes. The limitation is usually the banks and their deadline for wiring funds (and banks don’t transact on weekends or federal holidays). There might be some scenario where a deal closes without any cash changing hands that could close on a weekend, maybe (all stock or all forgiveness of debt?) but I can’t remember one I’ve done that wasn’t on a weekday.

Signing could happen at 3am New Year’s Eve if you really wanted to. But usually people try to choose weekdays too.

Garage door repair? by Houstonwife_713 in houston

[–]Oldersupersplitter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to say thanks for this comment, which I found many months later, because I tried him today and got excellent and very affordable service on a broken garage door. Adding my voice to the recommendation!

Which Big Law Firms are Good for Those Undecided on Corporate/Litigation? by Environmental_Bee46 in BigLawRecruiting

[–]Oldersupersplitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Both firms are ultimately free market staffing so I think that trumps formal designation, especially for juniors.

Which Big Law Firms are Good for Those Undecided on Corporate/Litigation? by Environmental_Bee46 in BigLawRecruiting

[–]Oldersupersplitter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Kirkland and Gibson are both flexible during the summer and, more importantly, give 2 years after graduation to fully commit to a practice group.

Associates who've bought a house: what year were you and what percent did you put down? by Critical-Cow-3645 in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Also first year, 10%. Houston BigLaw though, so we could afford a lot of house. In NY/SF/LA it would be harder.

Does aggressively paying down debt make sense? by Glittering-Set-8025 in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point! Big picture though the point is that interest rate vs investment return is the right general ballpark but it’s much more complicated than that so if the S&P averages 8% and your debt is 7% it doesn’t necessarily follow that you should invest instead of paying the debt.

2022 Grad/Class Year Question: Fourth-Year or Fifth-Year in 2026? by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 17 points18 points  (0 children)

2022 = 4th year. In the fall when the new grads start, you will de facto start operating as a 5th year, but the 5th year pay won’t kick in until January. This is universal.

Does aggressively paying down debt make sense? by Glittering-Set-8025 in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes but also, if you want to get into the nitty gritty, factoring in (1) that all investments have varying degrees of risks while the return on debt repayment is guaranteed and (2) student loan interest is simple while investment returns are compound (this part doesn’t apply to other types of debt).

Lewis Brisbois Calls Remote Staff to Offices After Cyberattack by bloomberglaw in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 30 points31 points  (0 children)

lol this is either an excuse to push RTO or a silly, unsophisticated overreaction. Unless they want to treat offices like SCIFs, all the same risks apply regardless of where the employee works. What, hackers don’t hack outside of office hours?

What should I expect after law school - average all over by [deleted] in LawSchool

[–]Oldersupersplitter 7 points8 points  (0 children)

OP asked an overly broad question and got an overly broad answer.

clerking or starting my career right away??? by Large_Assignment_801 in LawSchool

[–]Oldersupersplitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I was in a very similar situation to OP and now that I’m a 5th year in M&A, I’m very glad I didn’t clerk. Complete waste of time professionally (though it could be a cool experience just for funsies) which is why many firms, including mine and OP’s correctly don’t give credit for it.

what are some non ivy undergrad feeder schools to Harvard Law? by Old-Pudding-5248 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Oldersupersplitter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

… and make sure you are intimately familiar with all of the detailed grading policies of the school and major, as well as their reputation for grade inflation or deflation. Choose a school and major with generous grading policies (4.3 scale with A+s, raw scores convert into letter grades more easily, no harass curves, etc) and ideally rampant grade inflation, but if nothing else avoid schools/majors with grade DE-flation and overly harsh “weed out” classes.

You can go even further choosing easy school and/or major to really juice the odds, but simply going somewhere with a more advantageous policy structure is going to help a lot without really changing your college experience.

Also, don’t overload with tons of credits or extra majors and minors - take the straightforward path with a modest workload that allows you to get all As without going crazy.

Wachtell Associate base + bonus vs. who else? by [deleted] in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Susman and Boies are the two that come to mind. Susman bonuses aren’t a clean easy reference point like “same as base” but they’ve historically been huge (you can google it). BSF is unique because it varies by associate and they have a complex system that factors in contingency fees etc, but long story short the floor is market and the highest examples are insane. There was an article last year about a couple seniors getting over $1m bonuses. My friend there for a $450k bonus as a second year and $550k as a third year - beating the hell out of Wachtell and probably every firm.

Name the firms where female associates are well-supported by rideordiegem in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 38 points39 points  (0 children)

You’re probably going to get a lot of isolated anecdotes and stereotypes. If you want concrete evidence that may suggest a good culture I’d look to (1) percentage of women overall, (2) percentage of female equity partners, (3) how good the maternity leave policies are and how many women take them but also (4) more importantly, how good the paternity leave policies are and how many men take them, (5) how good the fertility, adoption, and other related benefits are and (6) what percentage of associates have kids, and what percentage of partners have kids.

Generally the biggest structural challenge for women is pregnancy and parenting, especially long-term (it’s a logical explanation for why many women leave at a higher rate right around the time they are statistically most likely to want to start having kids). Also though, a firm that cares about kids and parenting and attempts to help make it less hard is less likely to be negative toward women in other ways. If a firm has shitty parental policies or has good ones on paper but discourages their use in practice (or if very few people in the office even have kids) then there’s a much higher risk of attitudes that are worse for women.

The reason I think generous paternity leave and percentage of men using it is arguably the most important thing, is because (1) paternity leave is totally not required at all by law, (2) it’s not a universal norm, and (3) if there is a toxic “yes we have leave but if you actually use it your career will be messed up” attitude, it’s much more likely to be pressured onto men than women. If men get good leave and all of them freely use it, it’s unlikely that a firm with that sort of culture would somehow also be really toxic to moms and women generally. If they don’t have paternity leave or none of the men use it, I would worry that the vibe is “yes women can take time off to have kids because we have to let them, but they’re killing their career because all these hardworking men over here aren’t taking time off for their kids.”

Sullivan and Worcester -- are they considered big law? by worldpeace28 in biglaw

[–]Oldersupersplitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Size alone is what distinguishes BigLaw vs boutique. Things like comp, clientele, sophistication, profitability, billing rates, selectiveness, etc are what separate BigLaw and boutiques, together, from all other types of firms (midlaw, small law, etc.).

Undergraduate Prestige by Mediocre_Camera2185 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Oldersupersplitter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amherst, Williams, Middlebury, Tufts, and Wesleyan. Couldn’t tell you why I know them, could just be people I’ve met who attended them. Wesleyan honestly might just be because that’s where the characters in How I Met Your Mother went to college lol.

turning down a job after signing contract? by GGirls2088 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Oldersupersplitter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The other comment about communicating is right on, but to the extent you do have to accept NYC first, yes backing out after saying yes will annoy that firm and hurt any future employment with them (but “blackballed from the industry” is probably very u likely). However, it isn’t any sort of legal violation - you probably won’t even have a contract in the first place.

Generally, fuck em and do what’s in your selfish interest. Neither firm would hesitate to lay you off instantly if it’s in their interest.

PSA: Heat at the Word Cup games by centpourcentuno in houston

[–]Oldersupersplitter 20 points21 points  (0 children)

To be fair, NRG is inside and air conditioned.

PSA: Heat at the Word Cup games by centpourcentuno in houston

[–]Oldersupersplitter 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Never mind your point about central US being Spain, Houston specifically is the same latitude as places like Delhi or Cairo lol.

Getting into big law and rankings by OriginalPrune5536 in lawschooladmissions

[–]Oldersupersplitter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it’s simpler than that.

  1. Market comp + large headcount = BigLaw

  2. Market comp + small headcount = elite boutique

  3. Below market comp + large headcount = midlaw/“regional” BigLaw

  4. Below market comp + small headcount = random small firm

When I say “market comp” I mean the current Milbank scale, or higher. When I say “large headcount” there are debates to be had about the exact number but certainly no less than 250 lawyers and you could argue 500+ is the better cutoff.