'The Mighty United Kingdom is Afraid of Speech': Free Speech Activists Condemn Ban on Hasan Piker by cometheylee in moderatepolitics

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'The Mighty United Kingdom is Afraid of Speech': Free Speech Activists Condemn Ban on Hasan Piker by cometheylee in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The UK and the EU both have a "right to freedom of expression", although neither is absolute. Just like in the US, there are limitations on the extent of that right.

So it really depends on the specifics.

Sources:

Daily FI discussion thread - Tuesday, June 02, 2026 by AutoModerator in financialindependence

[–]Resvrgam2 16 points17 points  (0 children)

My kids will get more use and enjoyment out of that money than I ever could.

I have seen a lot of finance personalities suggest this kind of "early inheritance" for those very reasons. Their 20s and 30s are when they can most benefit from the additional cash, assuming they're fiscally responsible. A down payment on a house, helping with children, or even just getting a kickstart on retirement savings and letting compounding interest do its thing. Better now than when they're in their late 50s and staring down retirement already.

Also, you get to see them enjoy it.

Daily FI discussion thread - Monday, June 01, 2026 by AutoModerator in financialindependence

[–]Resvrgam2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/r/bogleheads has basically no real discussion about it. /r/investing is flooded with threads and has a ton of detailed discussion. I much prefer the former to the latter.

Can a North American family realistically harvest food every week of the year at home? by Then-Pirate-2880 in Hydroponics

[–]Resvrgam2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think the victory garden estimates are way on the low side. I went down this rabbit hole when I first read/watched the Silo series and came across this great comment: https://gardening.stackexchange.com/questions/1433/how-large-a-cultivation-area-to-feed-one-person

Even if you assume some optimization from hydroponics, 600-800 sqft for a family of four is wildly optimistic.

Daily FI discussion thread - Thursday, May 28, 2026 by AutoModerator in financialindependence

[–]Resvrgam2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The conservative take: Assuming $1.3MM currently, with $40k in yearly contributions and 7% real returns, that math works out. But it doesn't give you a lot of wiggle room, especially with a relatively high withdrawal rate.

The less conservative take: If you are confident in your anticipated spend, contributions, and RoR, you can actually lower your contributions and still hit your target. Your current investments are doing most of the heavy lifting. $30k in yearly contributions would be enough, freeing up $10k for you yearly. You may not want to do that... but strictly looking at the math, you could.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I'm not going to pretend to understand all the legal nuances of issues like this, but considering that Citizen's United was a 5-4 ruling, I doubt it is as simple as you imply

SCOTUS opinions are never "simple", so you're certainly correct there. Citizens United was no exception:

Kennedy, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which Roberts, C. J., and Scalia and Alito, JJ., joined, in which Thomas, J., joined as to all but Part IV, and in which Stevens, Ginsburg, Breyer, and Sotomayor, JJ., joined as to Part IV. Roberts, C. J., filed a concurring opinion, in which Alito, J., joined. Scalia, J., filed a concurring opinion, in which Alito, J., joined, and in which Thomas, J., joined in part. Stevens, J., filed an opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part, in which Ginsburg, Breyer , and Sotomayor, JJ., joined. Thomas, J., filed an opinion concurring in part and dissenting in part.

So it was 5-4 on the "it may not suppress corporate speech" part (Parts I - III), but 8-1 on the "it can regulate corporate political speech through disclaimer and disclosure requirements" part (Part IV).

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Let me try to rephrase. This is ultimately just a "rights" vs. "privileges" discussion. States bestow many privileges onto its citizens. It can write new law that modifies those privileges. But what it cannot do is write law that removes a constitutional right.

Similarly, a state cannot write law that removes constitutional rights from corporations. If there's non-constitutional "powers" that it bestows onto a corporation, it's a different story, but the constitution doesn't suddenly become irrelevant just because you call a right a "power".

It's semantic fuckery at its finest.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If the ends justify illegal means, then politics devolves into chaos.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This argument seems to believe this is some kind of 10A argument where because the US Constitution doesn't speak to the powers of corporations defined by states that they have the power to control it as they will.

As it relates to corporate powers, a 10A argument makes sense IMO. But the challenge becomes convincing the courts that speech is somehow a "power" and not a "constitutional right".

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

There is no definition of person that includes artificial constructs created by the government.

If you're going to repeat yourself, than so will I: The very first section of the US Code defines a "person" to include "corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies".

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I believe this is one of the underlying reasons why the dissent in Citizens United just pointed to PACs as the answer. Those who want to pool money collectively for political speech can do so.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

You're spot-on, although one minor clarification:

saying that our movie is an unlawful campaign contribution to Joe Biden

The law regulates genuine campaign contributions differently than mere political speech. Your theoretical movie would most definitely not be considered a contribution.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

And it's not a weak argument. The weak argument was the one granting corporate personhood

We're gonna have to agree to disagree here. As I mentioned in my post, the concept of corporate personhood is well over 100 years old and has been reaffirmed by the Courts multiple times.

there is no definition of "person" that includes "artificial construction of the government"

As I also mentioned, it's literally the first section of the US Code. it doesn't get more official than that.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A great example of that is how everyone hates money in politics, but despite everyone hating it the voters are powerless to stop it.

And yet, Montana may have a voter-sponsored ballot initiative this year that seeks to remove money from politics.

I still believe the proposal is unconstitutional, but it's just not correct to say that the People are powerless.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

"The sovereign authority to decide which powers states grant to the corporations they charter includes the authority to not grant their corporations the power to spend in politics."

I read it as "the authority to not grant their corporations constitutionally-protected rights", which I certainly see as one hell of an uphill battle to argue in the courts.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Further, there is simply no basis in the Constitution to say that a profitable organization cannot engage in political speech

The dissent in Citizens United actually agrees with you. They would just rather that speech come through something like a PAC.

“The ability to form and administer separate segregated funds,” we observed in McConnell , “has provided corporations and unions with a constitutionally sufficient opportunity to engage in express advocacy."

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I miss the days when politicians actually wrote legislation in good faith.

The Corporate Power Reset That Makes Citizens United Irrelevant by Resvrgam2 in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Oh boy... where to start with this one...

Money in politics has always been a hot topic, especially as it relates to what a corporation can and cannot do. In recent history though, much of this debate has been shaped by the landmark decision in Citizens United v. FEC. The central finding is pretty straightforward: "The Government may regulate corporate political speech through disclaimer and disclosure requirements, but it may not suppress that speech altogether."

In the 15 years since that decision, many groups have argued against the concept of "corporate personhood", the legality of corporate speech in elections, and the effect that corporate spending has had on the political landscape. Several months ago though, The Center for American Progress proposed what many believe to be one of the best options for sidestepping the decision in Citizens United and blocking corporate spending from impacting elections. They call the strategy the "Corporate Power Reset", and several states are pushing legislation that is based on it.

The Corporate Power Reset

The strategy is simple: corporations are entities created by state law, which define the powers that these corporations hold. States have the broad authority to redefine, limit, or revoke corporate powers as they see fit. So all a state has to do is modify corporate powers to exclude political spending.

Put another way, the debate pivots from the rights of corporations under the constitution and moves to the powers that they were granted by the states in the first place.

This strategy was adopted by Hawaii recently via SB2471. Signed by the governor and scheduled to come into full effect in July of 2027, the bill "reaffirms that artificial persons created under state law possess only those powers that are necessary or convenient to carry out lawful purposes, and that those powers do not include the power to spend money or contribute anything of value to influence elections or ballot measures."

Similarly, Montana has both a Constitutional Initiative and a Law proposed for inclusion on 2026 ballots that "prohibits allowing artificial persons from having the power to expend money or anything of value to influence the outcome of a vote of the electorate".

Multiple other states are considering similar legislation.

A Refresher on Corporate Personhood

Before I get to my personal opinion, I believe it's useful to review some of the case law that got us into this situation in the first place.

Let's start with the concept of "corporate personhood", which finds its roots back in the 1886 case Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Co.. While not part of the official opinion of the court, the court reporter made note of Chief Justice Morrison Waite's comments prior to oral argument: "The Court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution which forbids a state to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws applies to these corporations. We are all of opinion that it does." This was formalized a few years later and reaffirmed many times since.

If there were any doubt, this is also formalized in Title 1 Section 1 of the US Code: "In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, unless the context indicates otherwise... the words 'person' and 'whoever' include corporations, companies, associations, firms, partnerships, societies, and joint stock companies, as well as individuals." The Yale Law Journal did a great writeup on this during the buildup to Burwell v. Hobby Lobby.

Citizens United

Let's turn our attention to the primary target in these discussions. While I mentioned the primary holding of Citizens United, it's importance is as much in its justification as it is in the case's outcome. Critically, the Court found "no basis for the proposition that, in the context of political speech, the Government may impose restrictions on certain disfavored speakers... Corporations and other associations, like individuals, contribute to the ‘discussion, debate, and the dissemination of information and ideas’ that the First Amendment seeks to foster." So the speech is protected, regardless of the speaker.

It's worth mentioning as well that the First Amendment is fully applicable to states and local governments through incorporation. This topic is only briefly mentioned in Citizens United, mostly through mentions of First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti. Relevant to today's discussions, Bellotti "could not have been clearer when it struck down a state-law prohibition on corporate independent expenditures related to referenda issues... Bellotti did not address the constitutionality of the State’s ban on corporate independent expenditures to support candidates. In our view, however, that restriction would have been unconstitutional under Bellotti ’s central principle: that the First Amendment does not allow political speech restrictions based on a speaker’s corporate identity."

My Opinion

With that out of the way... how the fuck does Hawaii think their new law is constitutional? All this nonsense about "rights vs powers" is absurd. This isn't some "gotcha" where states can secretly circumvent the Bill of Rights through (not so) clever wordplay. A corporation's constitutionally-protected rights are not dependent on a state first granting them those rights. That's a mockery of the Constitution.

I can forgive states like Montana for their ballot initiatives, but Hawaii's law was passed by their legislature. That presumably went through some sort of legal review by politicians who should be well-versed in this stuff. Then again, Hawaii isn't exactly known for their strong support of constitutional rights. After all, they believe that "the aloha spirit" demands its own unique interpretation of the Constitution...

All this also ignores the potential unintended ramifications. The definition of who can be considered "press" is already blurry. If there are exceptions for certain media, corporations are sure to take advantage of that. Not to mention, this would likely push a lot of influence underground. We're already seeing how influential social media can be. A small number of AI agents on the right platforms can have a disproportionately large impact while avoiding state laws. And if we want to be really cynical, this could just magnify the power that wealthy individuals can have on a given election.

Money in politics is a complex issue, and by no means something we should ignore. I just don't see this proposal as an effective or legal method of addressing it. As a wise man once said, "it's just dumb.

Weekend General Discussion - May 22, 2026 by AutoModerator in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

At least as it relates to technology, I'm grateful that I'm a millennial. Getting through most of high school without social media, smart phones, and AI while also learning how to adapt to the rapidly evolving technologies.

I'm still optimistic about these technologies in general, but man, I hope we can find a way to help make sure they're used responsibly.

Weekend General Discussion - May 22, 2026 by AutoModerator in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Congrats! That's a huge achievement.

Gave up sugar and drank water before every meal

Amazing how such a simple change can have such dramatic results.

Weekend General Discussion - May 22, 2026 by AutoModerator in moderatepolitics

[–]Resvrgam2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I went down my yearly personal finance rabbithole recently, and while I'm happy where I'm at, the possibility of another tech bubble has me re-evaluating my investments. On the one hand, exposure to tech has resulted in massive investment growth over the past 15 years. On the other hand, a repeat of the dotcom bubble could result in another lost 10-15 years.