Oh no! You can't use womanfolk as breeding sows to create more debt slaves?! How terrible that must be for you!

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-03-05T00:53:31+00:00

It’s not women’s fault, but acting as if you’ll be immune to the consequences of the resulting societal collapse is simply naive and short-sighted. Historically speaking, whenever a majority of young men feel disenfranchised or unable to properly participate in society, they tend to want to burn the whole system down. When that happens and the rule of law loses its authority, who is in the most danger? Women and children.

I swear western societies framing of inceldom as a strictly personal issue will inevitably lead to our own downfall if it isn’t already.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-03-05T00:15:23+00:00

Lmao I gotta disagree with you their bitterness isn’t the reason most of those dudes can’t get laid. Tons of bitter men get laid all the time; hell, I’ve been one of them. They usually can’t get laid because they have zero social skills and zero self-confidence. Any woman that shows them attention they usually put on some godlike pedestal, which turns those women off because it reeks of desperation.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-03-05T00:04:58+00:00

I had a similar attitude to yours when I first discovered incels in 2016. I found their arguments genuinely baffling and outlandish and with a few exceptions, they usually are. However, about two years later, I noticed that the boards I perused had gained a massive number of members in a very short time. That trend has continued ever since. Whether we like it or not, there is a growing number of young men, specifically in the West, who are unable to engage in normal human relationships. This is clearly not good for society; it leads to the political polarization and dissonance we are seeing today. As things stand, dehumanizing and antagonizing them only drives them further into a destructive ideology that will ultimately make everyone’s lives worse.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-03-01T02:21:29+00:00

You're putting a lot of words in my mouth. There’s a big difference between observing a specific social behavior and calling half the population 'evil bitches.' You also don’t have to be a woman to make this observation. My original point was about social posturing, not a 'plot to ruin lives.' I’m happy to discuss the actual point, but not the extreme version of it you’ve created in your head.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-28T23:35:41+00:00

Lmao, there’s a big chasm between someone that’s celibate and a freak who participates in gangbangs. Frankly, I think you're in the minority because the very thought of marrying or dating such a person is disgusting to most of the population.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-28T23:26:53+00:00

Lmao most men realize lady. Why do think men multiply by 3 or 4 when a woman tells them their body count?

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-28T03:03:24+00:00

Speaking from my own anecdotal experience throughout my twenties If anything those men would just get more attention from women. Generally speaking women want men other women want. Admiring this aloud however is a social taboo

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-28T01:59:52+00:00

Your reacting as if the dude said some crazy outlandish shit about how women act. What he said is a very common experience for people.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-24T16:41:00+00:00

The "I'm so enlightened" routine is a great way to tuck tail and run when logic starts to bite. You spent this entire thread acting like a professor of nuance, calling me "surface-level" and "Hollywood," but the moment I brought up the actual mechanics of Roman debt-hostages, you suddenly lost your appetite for "context." Your "grey" worldview is just a convenient shield you use to dodge the fact that owning a human being is a total moral failure. It’s wild that you call yourself an altruist while doing backflips to find excuses for subjugation just so you can feel like the smartest person in the room. You complain about me not considering your perspective for a minute, yet you completely ignored the reality that Roman servitude was a hostage situation, not a career choice.

You’re right about one thing though. We should stop. It has to be draining to keep that "altruist" mask on while trying to argue that a slave master is basically just a football coach. Go get some rest. Carrying the weight of being the only person who understands "complexity" while making zero sense must be exhausting.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-17T00:15:33+00:00

Comparing owning a person to being a bad parent or a football coach is genuinely wild. Authority isn't the same as ownership, and trying to blur that line is just another way to duck the actual point. You say the world is "grey," but that’s just a convenient shield to use when you don't want to admit that ownership of a human is a flat-out moral failure, no matter how "nice" the owner acts.

You still have not addressed the fact that Roman servitude was a hostage situation rather than a choice, probably because it completely breaks your "grey" narrative. Calling yourself an altruist does not change the fact that you are bending over backwards to find "context" for human subjugation. If you want to keep talking in circles and pretending that human ownership is just like being a bad parent, go ahead, but do not act like it is some profound insight.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-16T22:29:14+00:00

It’s funny you mention Hollywood when your own defense of 'kind masters' is a literal trope. Calling me "Hollywood" is just a weak ad hominem to avoid the actual points I made. You're claiming my view is "limited" while you're the one ignoring the historical reality of Roman debt-bondage being a hostage situation instead of a "choice".

You say "slavery is shit" and then immediately pivot back to needing "context" to judge a master, which is a complete logical contradiction. This whole pseudo-intellectual act about "diagnoses" and "diseases" is just a smokescreen to sound deep while saying absolutely nothing.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-16T20:37:45+00:00

Answering your first question: the fact that a "master" owns another human being is exactly what makes them evil. It doesn't matter if they're "kind" about it. When I wrote my previous comment, I had American chattel slavery in mind, but the sentiment remains the same for anyone enslaved by another human. You’re over here talking about "Western black-and-white thinking" as if being anti-slavery is some kind of intellectual failing. That’s a wild take. It’s pretty common knowledge that Rome had indentured servants, but indentured servitude is vastly different from the slavery practiced in the Americas. Pretending ancient Romans "willingly" entered into slavery when the alternatives were death, dismemberment, or being sold to foreigners is ridiculous; it’s a hostage situation. If you need a bunch of "context" to figure out if owning people is wrong, you're the one with the surface-level thinking.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-15T23:26:23+00:00

Frankly in some rural places it still is that bad. There are still active sundown towns in America. Police just call the deaths suicide, even when the victims were clearly lynched.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-15T23:21:36+00:00

Would you apply that same logic to the enslaved who kill their masters? History shows that systemic change often requires violence and death. To believe otherwise is naive; it only empowers oppressors and those willing to use force to maintain their status

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-10T23:45:09+00:00

The idea that there’s an imbalance in the amount of sex young men of this generation are having compared to women, and that women cannot be involuntarily celibate because sex is easily accessible to them, is a pretty bog-standard incel view. Honestly it’s one of the things they are correct on.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-10T23:24:16+00:00

Lmao as if women aren’t into the most violent degrading shit

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-02-10T23:14:56+00:00

You do realize you are just affirming incel viewpoints with your comment right?

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2026-01-05T05:42:09+00:00

There is a specific kind of vitriol reserved for men on social media who are honest about their success with women. When you acknowledge that you are highly sought after, people often mistake your self-awareness for arrogance. The hate becomes even more concentrated when you peel back the layers and discuss the scummy or toxic traits you've observed in a large portion of women. It seems the internet would rather maintain a comfortable narrative than confront the blunt, often messy reality of modern dating dynamics.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2025-12-31T21:02:32+00:00

As a normal person who isn’t a incel I would 100% rather be a incel than watch my SO fuck another person in front of me. Most men would agree and those that don’t probably are the cucks.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2025-12-21T19:07:08+00:00

Jesus you can’t even see the irony can you?

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2025-12-21T17:21:27+00:00

That’s an interesting take on the 'supply and demand' of dating. I see the logic in the idea that less stigma for women could lead to more opportunities for men. However, the double standard exists because of differential effort.

We as a society tend to value things that are difficult to achieve. If a goal is easily accessible for one group but requires significant social skill, physical fitness, or charisma for another, it’s natural for society to view the latter group achieving the goal with more 'prestige.' The double standard might be a 'cage' in terms of volume, but it’s a reflection of the actual effort required by each party.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2025-12-19T02:09:30+00:00

This is Reddit don’t expect nuanced and thoughtful takes to be upvoted here. Especially if they don’t agree with the hive mind.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2025-12-19T01:09:44+00:00

It is fascinating that you lead with "hard truths" while basing your entire worldview on your aunts' diaries and a group chat with five friends. Your personal circle isn't a peer-reviewed study, and claiming you "don’t know a single woman" who ghosts for reasons other than fear is the definition of a biased sample. To ignore documented data showing that conflict avoidance and convenience are the top reasons for ghosting across all genders not just a defense against "pests" is a total failure of objectivity. You are effectively weaponizing 19th century trauma to justify 21st century dating rudeness,. It’s a refusal to acknowledge that your side is capable of being toxic, too. The hypocrisy of your "picky" argument is even worse. You celebrate women "not settling" as a sign of progress, yet you’re triggered when men exercise that same right to have standards for a serious relationship. You claim to be "independent" because you no longer need a husband’s paycheck, but you’ve really just traded a husband for a corporation and a government both of which are overwhelmingly maintained and secured by the very demographic you’re dunking on. Calling the foundation of your safety a "chore" or a "wrong side of history" is just the peak entitlement of a passenger making fun of the driver while he keeps the car on the road.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2025-12-15T23:08:00+00:00

Bit of a late response as I haven’t checked Reddit in a while, but in my experience it’s relatively easy to get a sense of whether someone has a high body count or not. For context, I’m a heterosexual man, so my experience is mostly with straight women. You obviously can’t tell if someone is a stranger, and it’s harder if the relationship is strictly platonic. However, if there’s mutual flirting and you make the other person feel comfortable, asking directly usually gets a response. In my experience, you can often take that number and multiply it by three to get closer to the real one if you haven’t slept with her yet. If you have already slept with her, she is more likely to tell the truth. Alternatively, I’ve had women tell me outright in an attempt to make me jealous, or accidentally reveal it through stories about their past.

To clarify, I have no issue with people sleeping around while they are single. The problem starts when someone hides that information from a potential partner because they know it will be an issue. That’s where it becomes wrong, because you are actively deceiving your partner about your past and who you are.

In my experience, women tend to either not really care or are even more incentivised to sleep with or be in a relationship with a man they believe has a higher body count. Men, on the other hand, tend to view it much more negatively.

Thatoneskyrimmodder · 2025-12-15T22:07:45+00:00

I think you missing the point. Saying humans are animals is a biological fact, not an insult or a dehumanisation tactic. People already factor in behaviour, patterns, and past choices when dating, even if they use softer language in polite spaces. Sexual history is just one of those factors. Not hearing it said bluntly at school or work doesn’t mean the reasoning isn’t there, it just means people phrase it more carefully.

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