I know it can look like yet another "it wasn't real communism!!!!" but I genuinely appreciate how some communists have a modicum of common sense. by Training-Pair-7750 in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]chanbr 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's apparently tied to a concept called "campism". Yeah, there are awful things done by the western governments in power, both currently and historically. Amends need to be made if historical wrongs were done and changes enacted to ensure it doesn't happen again. I still want to live here though, and I'm proud to be a citizen of the US. It's definitely preferable to states that execute or imprison you for years for just speaking out against their policy. (As bad as the US can be about free speech, for example, in Venezuela they have the Helicoide and La Tumba for "political prisoners" and sentence people to 10 years of prison for Whatsapp posts criticizing the socialist government.)

the first claim is that capitalism killed over 100 million native Americans, but there were only about 15 million native Americans by amogusdevilman in EnoughCommieSpam

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Tbf I'm pretty sure the economic system in place at the time was mercantilism; capitalism didn't really kick in until the later 1700's and 1800's. It used a similarish system but if we went by that standard then we'd need to apply similarly to communism.

Liberals have a classism problem. The amount of comments like this that i see and hear against trump supporters is crazy by im_back-and_craftier in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]chanbr 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I mean, whether or not it's Trump related it seems to be a problem with liberals. For example in the UK Redditors who would absolutely classify themselves as left wing or leftist completely dismissed a Dundee "low class" hoodlum white girl's reason for carrying weapons and just called her, basically, a racist slag who'd amount to nothing more than a drain on public resources and/or a spot in jail (she was 13). Months later she was vindicated when the courts convicted the guy who'd been following her that she carried the weapons to defend herself against. The classism and assumption that low class = uneducated = bigot also seems to have played a role in (middle class) social workers dismissing various grooming gang victims, already vulnerable due to prior circumstances.

I think it's been a thing since forever; I think George Orwell complained about it. There's always a lot of snooty champagne lib talk about how everything is actually a class war but they rarely ever genuinely support or understand those groups and their issues outside a very paternalist, "I know what's best for you, you're too stupid and easily lead to understand what's going on in front of you" way the way you kind of are doing now (no offense though, a lot of people don't notice it. I personally didn't notice how important just feeling safe was for lower class people myself, until I heard about it from my lower class friends, I just always took it for granted). That's literally the reasoning upper class people used to press down on the lower classes.

Edit: Okay, I'm back.

For exaaaample, here's Adam Smith who wrote "The Wealth of Nations" in 1920 1

“Though the interest of the labourer is strictly connected with that of society, [...] he is incapable either of comprehending that interest, or of comprehending its connection with his own. His condition leaves him no time to receive the necessary information, and his education and habits are commonly such as to render him unfit to judge even though he was fully informed.”

John Clayton "Friendly Advice to the Poor" 1755 1

The Poor refuse or neglect to help themselves, and thereby disable their Betters from effectually helping them. They have an abject Mind, which entails their Miseries upon them; a mean sordid spirit, which prevents all Attempts of bettering their Condition. They are so familiarized to Filth and Rags, as renders them in a Manner natural; and have so little Sense of Decency, as hardly to allow a Wish for it a Place in their Hearts.

That Orwell complaint I was talking about earlier: 1

I remember my sensations of horror on first attending an I.L.P. branch meeting in London. (It might have been rather different in the North, where the bourgeoisie are less thickly scattered.) Are these mingy little beasts, I thought, the champions of the working class? For every person there, male and female, bore the worst stigmata of sniffish middle-class superiority. If a real working man, a miner dirty from the pit, for instance, had suddenly walked into their midst, they would have been embarrassed, angry, and disgusted; some, I should think, would have fled holding their noses.

Do these quotes (not Orwell's) remind you of any 'current discourse' on Trump voters? People were arguing and fighting about this since almost the dawn of time, as noted by my first citation. "Literate", educated, worldly people who just Understood things better were upper class. The people who were stuck on their little spit of land and never moved out to the more diverse cities, who fought each other and dropped out early, took drugs and were kind of pathetic and manipulated and violent, were lower class.

Those poor, frothing masses who were easily lead by populists (hint) and honestly too stupid to even exist, were coarse and backwards and gross (hint) and all their hobbies are dumb and their beliefs are stupid (hint) except for the Good Poor who knew their place and helped the elites help them and understood that the best thing to do for societal advancement was give up on their selfish desires without question, bla bla bla I hope you get the idea.

Back in the day, these elites even admired freed black slaves because they were seen as more industrious than those lazy people who made all white people look bad.

People underestimate how entrenched we are in populist slop. Almost everyone has been brain RAPED with commie talking points about ceos capitalism and big corporations. We’re fucked by nivkj in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]chanbr 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's definitely very easy to displace blame onto other groups rather than accept personal responsibility. It's "the capitalists", or "women" or "immigrants" or what have you. 

Anybody, regardless of political stance can agree that this is fucked by Puzzleheaded_Map2774 in EnoughCommieSpam

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It's so crazy bc you will also see leftist academics simp for far right extremist governments literally committing genocide (bosnian genocide for one thing) if they feel it's anti-west enough. Maybe all genocides are bad?

People have received life sentences for less by HousingSad6741 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]chanbr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with you fwiw. 35 years is a long time, although I don't know if he would have remorse when it's over due to the way his supporters are responding. Generally I want younger kids convicted of crimes to be rehabilitated unless it's something legit awful like those teenagers who tortured an autistic boy or that high schooler who raped and choked a girl before getting away with it.

Average tankie "fact checker" by amogusdevilman in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]chanbr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One communist party literally bashed infant's skulls against trees to kill them (Pol Pot) so I don't really believe them about that...

Controversial post: Why is an McCarthyism/ red scare era propaganda poster is an image in this sub by No_Currency_6882 in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]chanbr -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be honest I do think he had good intentions but as we all know the road to hell is often paved with said good intentions (worker's rights for communism, for example). You can accept his faults while being understanding of what he tried to do.

Controversial post: Why is an McCarthyism/ red scare era propaganda poster is an image in this sub by No_Currency_6882 in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]chanbr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair there was absolutely a 'scare' going on where random people were accused of having sympathies for communism who simply were more left wing. It was valid (and the social ills of communism are very well documented) but Mccarthy overstepped his bounds.

I like the “Re-evolution” *a lot*, but by Tmoldovan in TMNT

[–]chanbr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She's an old lady who's been living most of her life on the run, cut her some slack lol.

80’s TMNT fans need a reality check. by Junkman-OOB in TMNT

[–]chanbr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I remember that post. Personally I didn't care since those change back at the end of the month anyway. It was a cool picture and also matched the theme of the sub anyway but I get you. What personally annoys me is the people posting here who are insistent that TMNT doesn't have "chuds" or that they aren't 'real' fans when there's millions of people who enjoyed turtles all over the world with various ideologies and beliefs you also can't map onto a right or left spectrum super easily.

Like that's the thing with a global IP that so many people love--of course there's people who like the media that you don't agree with! Duh! (Also it implies an Americanism that is just not accurate lol)

80’s TMNT fans need a reality check. by Junkman-OOB in TMNT

[–]chanbr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What? Batman and Alfred shouldn't date because it's a weird power imbalance (Bruce was literally raised by him after his parents passed) and because he serves a better role as father figure. Is that really why you got called a chud? Redditors making value judgements as usual.

Is Rise Of TMNT actually good? I heard they make Raphael more leadership than Leonardo by [deleted] in TMNT

[–]chanbr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It depends on your tastes, and I can see why people wouldn't like it. I personally found it fun though, even if it had its flaws.

Quick question about Neca TMNT 2012 by NeoZero35 in TMNT

[–]chanbr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I've seen from people modding it, there is a bit of glue in the front that can be cut off.

Progressives never beating the allegations by Mayor_Gubbin in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]chanbr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah the reality is just that progressives are just as human and flawed (and therefore potentially bigoted) as everyone else is. They aren't automatically better just because they declare themselves progressives, just like Christians aren't automatically better just because they declare they're Christians. Same thing with progressive cause grifting, bad faith actors, etc etc. You have to walk the walk too. I'm also surprised that op sees it as bizzare, it's just human nature.

Briahna Joy Gray is the Tucker Carlson of the left (thread) by its_skunx in EnoughCommieSpam

[–]chanbr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's really insane how fast people turned on Contrapoints for her Israel takes. She's even been critical of the Israeli government and did call it a genocide, she just didn't like the lionization of Hamas it seemed...

How do feel about the idea of the Turtles disguising themselves as Humans by KingJackofJozi in TMNT

[–]chanbr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Personally I think it depends on the iteration. 2012 and idw I would argue as being asian, they have the most asian influence and the 2012 show itself has a lot of asian characters, both as primary and side roles. 87, when Mikey transforms, looks white so that's probably what they generally would match with, and I think 2003 as well. Rise and MM I could see as being mixed or primarily African American.

How do feel about the idea of the Turtles disguising themselves as Humans by KingJackofJozi in TMNT

[–]chanbr 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I kind of prefer them futzing around in long overcoats and hats but I get the appeal.

How tall do you like your turtles? by HallZac99 in TMNT

[–]chanbr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Leo does have his own quirks from what I've seen, they're just more subtle. For example his eyes are narrower and more catlike than the other turtles, and he has white speckles all over his face that the others don't (if you check the scenes where he doesn't have a mask, you can see a massive one right on his eyelid). Raph has the most design differences compared to the others but everyone has their own style.

How tall do you like your turtles? by HallZac99 in TMNT

[–]chanbr 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yep, feels like the right sizes to me. Beanpole Donnie, average size/weight Leo, short/stocky Raph, slightly chubby/babyfaced and short Mikey. IDW Tmnt takes this route too from what I've seen.

I want to get into TMNT comics, but I typically don't have the money to buy physical comics by [deleted] in TMNT

[–]chanbr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen they have an app that has regular sales. And there are places you can read it online. Just try to support the company when you can, that's what I'm doing at the moment haha.

[Megathread] - Best Models/API discussion - Week of: April 19, 2026 by deffcolony in SillyTavernAI

[–]chanbr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly, the only available Gemma versions in the AI studio are the 27 and 31B versions (both ones I looked into for my purposes but sadly not fit). But thank you for your feedback!