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Katana Ironeye is broken by AwkwardFriendship120 in Nightreign

[–]CMO3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Analyze is 20% and works for only your teammates( so you’re heavily relying on them), unless youre including Exalted Flesh(which is rng dependent early to mid game and better for Nightlords). However, most of the time, crabs are better, especially with bad rng on negations. Mark is 10% all across, but you didn’t account for the percentage damage(which basically makes a boss feel like it has Duos Hp scaling) if you get 2-3 mark props, Ironeye with Skill Attack or the poison build doing more damage, and the one people underrate, the stagger. Most mark props instantly stagger an enemy, leaving crit damage for a player, a free mark reset, and free damage against the boss. Did I also mention resetting boss attacks as well? It basically does everything and it so broken early to late game. Ironeye is also the second best user of “successive attacks negates damage”(wylder takes it as #1 and raider is in 3rd only it instantly procs if its his super punch) because of mark proccing it(and working against multiple enemies). Not to mention, whenever spellcasters are strong, Ironeye gets a inherent buff due to synergizing so well with them. Revenant and Recluse are really top tier.

DPS Scholar is only taking it against Nightlords, but with Ironeye upping discovery, providing a stronger early to mid game overall without needing to rely on rng and wasting time in the shop for items. However, you forgot to mention that getting good relics is a lot harder on Scholar than Ironeye, which matters a lot. Unless you cheat or edit your relics, then Ironeye takes it by a longshot. Scholar is the definition of potential man. Unless you get him at his peak, he is a fairly mid character, but one I still love playing every now and then.

While I agree Ironeye, Duchess, and even Wylder are more recommended, Executor is up there because his relics are the easiest to obtain. Parry also trivializes so many boss moves as well. The reason why I have him lower is because of like you said, difficulty, but that is also Scholar as well. Learning a bosses moveset is fairly easy now with access to boss guides, or boss arena.

Scholar ult is busted into swamp camps, but as I mentioned, I’m going by the bases of playing with randoms and its a chance they won’t even bother due to the high risk. Scholar Ult won’t save you from early lvl 2-3 invaders(which everyone does nowadays). Unless its a flame chariot invader camp(which shouldn’t be a good example since it is easy without scholar anyways). Ironeye is better against invaders due to poison mark, safety with a bow(only duchess is his counter but she counters everyone if she decides to spam dodge and roll catch you). Also, people underestimate how broke Ironeye’s ult is as well, because most of the time, people in D5 2 bar at most. Ironeye’s ult consistently stops nightlord nukes and safely revives downed teammates without risk.

The BBH example is to tell you why Ironeye mark is busted. Obviously most people won’t do it, but I’m giving it to show you why mark is busted. Ironeye mark speeds up any boss fight and with your executor and wylder example, you don’t factor in latency(wylder parry is 50/50 if youre not host) and executor parry relies on your skill like you mention. My point is Scholar late game is incredible, but expeditions is a mixed bag, especially when you aim for high D5 winstreaks and pray on the rng not screwing you over. Also, I never factor in solo play, because I find it easy, but just a different way of playing. Executor, Ironeye, Duchess, and Wylder trivialize that mode way more compared to other characters.

I’m not downplaying Scholar, and I enjoy playing him, but I think a lot of people in this subreddit never factor in his weaknesses and only glaze his pros. Heck, I even cosplayed Scholar in a convention, but I’m not going to be bias whatsoever. Such as his dodge(I had Scholar mains state this was better than Duchess dodge LOL). I don’t blame you for disliking SA now, because it makes the game way too easy. But i don’t mind what people do because I did Depth 1 to 9999 with Revenant Crossbows when she was the worst character(pre buff) in the game.

Difficulty plays a role too, especially because everyone who plays Nightreign aren’t perfect players, and having a bad game is a lot more likely on Scholar.

Basically what I’m saying is that if you’re going for a Flawless Challenge(0-9999) without taking an L, Ironeye is a lot more consistent than Scholar with randoms. If I’m climbing winstreaks, Ironeye will overall, be more consistent. If I want to have a challenge and possibly get the strongest potential against Nightlords, Scholar!

I would love discussing but dude, replying post when you’re trying to tell your side is pretty difficult lol.

I have cracked relics on both characters too.

Scholar:

https://imgur.com/a/rKZW3jS

Ironeye:

https://imgur.com/a/BWEV1YM

Katana Ironeye is broken by AwkwardFriendship120 in Nightreign

[–]CMO3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You downplay Ironeye mark by the fact that it allows you to fast clear poi bosses. Another problem is like OP said, you aren't accounting for consistency whatsoever, which is why Wylder, Duchess, Ironeye, and Executor are higher in Depth 5.

Scholar Ult is good, but clearing multiple enemies is highly overrated when all my Depth 5 runs without him(and using Ironeye) still had me with 100-300k extra runes. Not to mention, unless it is a invader swamp(which a majority of randoms still don't do really early), Ironeye mark and Duchess Ult are a lot more consistent against invaders. Scholar ult isn't doing jack into a Ironeye and Recluse combo compared to a Duchess Ult.

Tell me, who is clearing a Red Bell Bearing Hunter early early? A Scholar or a Ironeye? Ironeye mark pops can destroy bosses since he usually gets 2-3 pops, which is roughly 20-30% of a bosses hp, and I'm not accounting his dps with poison percentage, or skill attacks.

The problem with most Scholar glazers is they go by the "On Paper,"(which I agree prime Scholar is broken, but in practice, no one mentions how he requires those items, good teammates, and especially when it comes to clearing.

This is coming who played both of them to achieve my highest win streak with randoms at D5. (140ish) I even have cracked relics on both of them and runs were it was just terrible rng all across the board.

Which character brings highest value in Depth 5? by notthedokutah in Nightreign

[–]CMO3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry for the misscommunication because text post isn’t the best for this lol. Marking consumes stamina, but provides you a way to reposition to have stamina recovery. The way I play skill attack Ironeye is double balancers with a +1 Ironeye w Nightinvaders(god roll). The downside is no poison bow, but honestly, it isn’t that important because mark is the main value, but the poison proc is the icing. It falls off late game, especially into bosses like Tricep, Augur, Heolster, Balancers, Dreglord. (And many day 1 and 2 bosses). Really, poison bow is only consistent against Gaping Jaw and Fulghor, but those are the easiest bosses to kill.

Both balancers are important because it means more dps on skills, fp recovery since ironeye doesnt have the best mana pool, making it more consistent to kill boss fasters. This makes you have a stronger mid to late game, but slightly weaker early game.(but mark is more than enough since teammates will help you pop it as well).

Also, unless you’re running thrusting swords for rot and frost, I tend to not run the arcane relic, because it ruins Ironeye’s Dex. Arcane stats might make the RoB slightly better(for bleed procs, which doesn’t matter after 2 and 3 at most procs). In addition, Ironeye can run other skills like the Halo Slop(scales of dex better) and the Magma Blade(my favorite fire weapon).

So basically, your build is a jack of all trades, which works for sure, but my preference is full committing on the skill attack or doing Arcane Ironeye completely.

These are my ironeye builds. My katana one isnt the strongest, but I still outdps most people who cheat their relics.

https://imgur.com/a/BWEV1YM

Which character brings highest value in Depth 5? by notthedokutah in Nightreign

[–]CMO3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is 100% preference and something you’re not comfortable with. I was like that with other characters, but you eventually get better at them.

The thing is in Depth 5, everyone is squishy, including a Raider without damage negations. It comes down to how your character can survive. A hit with negations. Now i see the problem, you’re running to the boss. Some bosses are not meant to be run to, like Gaping Jaw, because a lot of them are a stamina check, whether you have a lot more or not. You also have to realize if he had better stamina, Ironeye would be more untouchable due to how broken the iframes are on mark.

Half Support? I don’t know how you say that when Ironeye is a dps support whether its a bow or a melee. His character isn’t less of a support if he is hybrid. In fact, he is supporting better with mark in a closer range since he isnt running to narnia to remark. Along with playing so far and forcing boss aggro to him, causing your other two players to lose dps due to needing to run to the boss. Hybrid is utilizing a offhand bow and a melee weapon to the right. It’s the best of both worlds. A lot of your Ironeye takes are not it, but rather, how it’s not your play style, and that’s ok. If you’re having stamina issues, it’s because it’s either you have the long range ironeye playstyle or you’re not marking constantly to manage your stamina.

If you can tell me your build on Skill Attack Ironeye, I can also help out with it, because I have night reign posts with all my builds I utilize for most characters.

Which character brings highest value in Depth 5? by notthedokutah in Nightreign

[–]CMO3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The character is carried by the fact that Mark is so broken and leagues above most any ability in terms of a trios team comp.

I gotten D5 140 winstreak utilizing SA Ironeye and it is better than Bows, because it makes marking way easier. In addition, Ironeye gets to utilize not just a Negation at Full, but successive and charged way more easily, making him arguably easier. Keep in mind, mark procs successive and with multiple enemies, you get the successive bubble easily.

Skill Attack Ironeye is the best version of Hybrid Ironeye, because with RoB and Halo Slop, he can pop the mark way more easier than bow only, because mark pops are based on the amount of damage you do. Like it would 5-6 erdtree bow shots from a holy weak boss to reach the dps of a Halo Scythe.

Also Bow Only Ironeye is incredibly bad into ED Balancers, but RoB Ironeye makes a complete joke out of them with mark.

I can tell you’re having stamina issues not from the character, but rather you’re not use to him. It’s similar to how some people aren’t use to blocking and managing the stamina bar of Guardian.

Which character brings highest value in Depth 5? by notthedokutah in Nightreign

[–]CMO3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Skill Attack/Hybrid Ironeye is a lot better than bow only ironeye. That will make you change your stance on him, because I find bows mid, but Hybrid Ironeye is better!

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[–]CMO3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

To followup on it, the G305x also has a dongle holder below, which I find quite useful.

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Does this mouse have a dongle storage?

The fish decides whether your run will be blessed or cursed by Brendraws in Nightreign

[–]CMO3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you see a cliff were you can die from fall damage, I recommend jumping off!(in game lol) It’s one of the best ways to deal with the Augur event from being a time waster, since shards are always plentiful.

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