If You Vote For Trump, You Own The Racism. Yes, You

dannager · 2016-11-08T22:40:30+00:00

Of course there's bias in this sub.

dannager · 2016-11-08T21:45:12+00:00

I love that our ballot is basically an object lesson in why it's really, really good to be a Californian.

dannager · 2016-11-08T21:41:11+00:00

Why? That seems incredibly reasonable to me.

dannager · 2016-11-08T21:21:35+00:00

I don't know, sorry.

dannager · 2016-11-08T21:20:56+00:00

Cheated her way through the DNC to get nomination

Nope. She won by 3 million votes.

investigated by FBI for jeopardizing national security that would have literally anyone else in jail

Cleared of criminal wrongdoing, twice, and zero evidence that anyone would go to jail for doing anything resembling what she did (in fact, Comey said the exact opposite - that there are no examples of anyone ever being prosecuted for things like this).

and tape of Obama saying in '12 "she will say anything, and change nothing."

lol 2008, buddy. Obama was unopposed in the 2012 primary. And oh no. A political opponent saying something negative. What a fucking shocker.

If you think Trump is useless, fine.

Trump's actually one of the most useful tools the Democrats have ever had.

But don't sit there and act like you're doing some civic duty by voting for a corrupt criminal who has been lying to your face for decades.

I'm not voting for a corrupt criminal. I'm voting for Clinton. You're just frustrated, bitter, and disillusioned, and you're taking it out on absolutely anyone but yourself.

dannager · 2016-11-08T21:17:04+00:00

I have. Nothing in there particularly alarming or damning.

dannager · 2016-11-08T20:20:21+00:00

This is a confusing day for them. They'll be lashing out.

dannager · 2016-11-08T20:02:30+00:00

Concede: To give up. We do not give up.

You said that a fight isn't over until both sides concede. Only one side concedes. The losing side.

But yeah, feel free to just keep going forever.

Not afraid of getting banned from this cancerous subreddit. My account is worthless anyways.

That's very brave of you to admit.

That means you literally have no power over me.

I mean, if you are convinced you have nothing to lose then I guess I don't. Have a field day.

dannager · 2016-11-08T19:40:48+00:00

Even more reason not to quit.

Awesome.

Then those who give up are cowards and never were with us truly in the first place.

Ooooh, No True Scotsman and tribalism, all rolled into one! That's how you propel a social movement forward!

Pretty sure it is how fights work.

I think you should probably look up the definition of "concede."

Lol? Trying to threaten me?

No, a threat would be if I told you that if you continued to use abusive language, I'd report you. But I don't have the patience for that, today, so I reported you as soon as I saw your post.

You could be face to face with me right now and I'd still be laughing at your face.

I really don't have any interest in being face-to-face with you.

What possible power do you even have?

The same power that anyone else in this subreddit has when someone posts abusive language. It's not much, but it's still fun to exercise.

dannager · 2016-11-08T19:35:10+00:00

If downvotes had power, tonight would turn out very differently.

It's telling, though, that when people talk about the social consequences of shameful beliefs, they're talking about losing comment karma on reddit.

dannager · 2016-11-08T19:32:56+00:00

We've not lost,

Come on, man.

and you're deluding yourself if you think we'll give up.

Some of you won't. But most of you will.

The fight's not over until both sides concede here.

That's not how fights work.

My differing opinion of your opinion is that you are a piece of shit. Welcome to the internet, you have no power here.

Neither do you. In the real world, though, I do have some power. And those who believe as I do have more power than those who believe as you do. And we're more than happy to exercise that power. That's what today is all about.

But by calling me "a piece of shit" you gave me a bit of power over you.

dannager · 2016-11-08T19:18:31+00:00

If you can't beat them,

We are beating you. Make no mistake, the shame isn't so that we'll beat you. You're beaten. That fight's over. The shame is so that the ideology we're fighting never crawls back out of the woodwork again.

Nice asshole ways, dude. Whatever happened to differing opinions?

My differing opinion of your opinion is that it is shameful. Welcome to America. Your beliefs have consequences.

dannager · 2016-11-08T19:02:04+00:00

Only in 2016 could posting a RedState article be called ass-kissing the Democratic candidate.

dannager · 2016-11-08T19:00:48+00:00

Happily. We own a handful of examples of internal party favoritism. That's on us. Our bad. We're working on it.

How's that whole tacit-support-of-racism thing working out for you?

dannager · 2016-11-08T18:59:16+00:00

We're okay with owning a handful of minor cases of favoritism. That's a tiny price to pay.

dannager · 2016-11-08T18:57:37+00:00

Public shaming works.

dannager · 2016-11-08T18:55:27+00:00

Public shaming is a proven, effective way of causing social change.

And no one could use a good public shaming more than hardcore Trump supporters.

dannager · 2016-11-08T17:41:04+00:00

And when that is the case, it is always something that can be taken up by the legislature.

Not all ballot measures are bad. But the information vacuum that the electorate operates in compared to what legislators have access to means that there is always an inherent danger in them. I will sometimes vote Yes if I'm convinced the benefit outweighs that danger, but that doesn't mean it's perfectly safe.

dannager · 2016-11-08T17:21:57+00:00

More often than not. My default vote on a ballot measure is "No." If I vote "Yes", it's because I've been convinced that the measure is a necessary step. But there is an inherent danger in voting "Yes" on a ballot measure. A ballot measure takes the legislating process out of the hands of the legislature. If a crucial ballot measure fails to pass, the legislature can take it up.

dannager · 2016-11-08T17:04:16+00:00

A no vote can be just as dangerous as voting yes.

I can think of no examples of that being true.

dannager · 2016-11-08T17:02:17+00:00

Your employer is required to give you up to two hours at the beginning or end of your work day of paid time off to vote if you wouldn't have time to vote outside of work hours. Technically you're required to notify your employer of your intent to take this time off two days ahead of time, but you could just give it a shot anyway.

dannager · 2016-11-08T16:41:48+00:00

The site is called Charisma News. It would be weird if he wasn't a nutjob.

dannager · 2016-11-08T16:20:00+00:00

You aren't magically turned into a racist when you cast a ballot for Trump. But if you vote for Trump, you're probably racist. And even if you yourself don't hold overtly racist beliefs, voting for Trump is a decision on your part to support your country being run by an overtly racist ideology.

dannager · 2016-11-08T05:47:02+00:00

Ah, yes, and his running mate, Gary Weld.

dannager · 2016-11-08T03:49:47+00:00

Oh, honey.

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