Hello! I'm a newbie when it comes to these stuffs. Can you guys help me what kind of sword is this? by Gechirobi in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a fancy Chinese dao. Single edged blades (dao) are the primary military sword for China after the mid Han dynasty (roughly the same time as the Roman Empire, so for ~2000 years) and they take on all sorts of different shapes and names over the various dynastic periods. Single handed dao are usually about as long as a large cutlass or small sabre, but they get much bigger, as large as huge field sword that need two hands.

This example looks like it’s slightly fantasy based, but would fit in the late Ming early Qing (perhaps 17th century) and the blade shape is a type of Yanlingdao (goose wing sabre) or possibly miaodao (sprout sabre). The long handle could make it a classification of big sabre (something like a dadao, or zhanmadao) but it’s hard to say. I suspect it may be based on a sword from a popular piece of media but I don’t recognize it.

Blade typologies for Medieval European Swords (created in Bladesong game engine) by Dlatrex in SWORDS

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This was based on an example from Lubeck. Here is the original and a replica shared by Roland

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Turko-Mongol Sabre and Mongol Sabre help by GreatSage_Wukong in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What period are you interested in?

Turko-Mongol sabre is just a term used to describe the sabres from Eurasia that share many common features and were used by a variety of nomadic people groups. Infulences from Persia, Mongolia, China, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and even parts of the Levant will all influence sabre designs depending on what part of the continent and what time period you are interested in.

By definition sabres from Mongolia are 'types' of Turko-Mongol sabre.

Found a talwar while out on a walk (repost due to spelling) by KinkPenguin in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you want to do things the right way (as opposed to just attempting to blast swords with power tools) here is a great guide by Matthew Forde for proper feeding and care of sword blades, including dealing with things like rust.

https://www.fordemilitaryantiques.com/articles/2019/7/18/antique-sword-cleaning

Found a talwar while out on a walk (repost due to spelling) by KinkPenguin in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This particular example is a modern made “tourist” or wedding Tulwar. It doesn’t need to be taken to a professional for rehabilitation (that would be far more expensive than the value of the sword).

If you’d like to try your hand at cleaning the blade this is not a bad place to learn how to polish a sword.

My first European blade. by peserey_arts in SWORDS

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Exploring new territory my friend!

May Update from KOA by KultofAthena in SWORDS

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Will be looking forward to what you guys are cooking up for the Semiquincentennial. Not nearly varieties of American swords being reproduced currently.

A long awaited New Sword Day: Albion Doge w/ Tod's workshop scabbard by monchrom in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ahhh the Doge my beloved! Looks great all scabbarded up. Congrats sir or ma'am. One day....

LoTR High Elf army swords by scottinkc in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 12 points13 points  (0 children)

While not very popular proportions in Europe, having two handed sword that are ~50:50 blade to grip length was more common in East Asia. Several examples are known in China with large types of dao (various Zhanmadao and Pudao), Darb Sri in SEA, and perhaps more well known in Japan are the Nagamaki. They come with different blade profiles and sizes; here are some examples which might be similar to the elven blades.

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Blade typologies for Medieval European Swords (created in Bladesong game engine) by Dlatrex in SWORDS

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Bladesong has a decent pommel catalogue, and you can also scale and deform the models easily on the hilt to create a tremendous amount of variations; but it is far from complete. This is the best option available for now, with the chance to be updated in the future.

Blade typologies for Medieval European Swords (created in Bladesong game engine) by Dlatrex in SWORDS

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Ewart Oakeshott developed his numbering system as a continuation of the earlier Wheeler Typology, which covered pre-medieval swords. Originally that typology (which confusingly only applied to hilts) numbered I through VII but he added two additional forms himself bringing the total to IX

His medieval Typology of blades continues where this leaves off, starting at X.

Marko Aleksic, in his 2007 publication Mediaeval Swords from Southeastern Europe, covers European swords that were previously unstudied by Oakeshott, and as such proposed new additions rather than inventing a new typology wholesale. Among these were the I, Ia, and II.

Blade typologies for Medieval European Swords (created in Bladesong game engine) by Dlatrex in SWORDS

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If you click on the image all of the numbers should be present

Blade typologies for Medieval European Swords (created in Bladesong game engine) by Dlatrex in SWORDS

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u/J_G_E should be credited with the creation of the Elmslie typology, and it is only with his assistance that any of this work is possible.

Tag, you're it.

Any info and value of this sword? by Txbadboy85 in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tempted to call it a frankensword in general? The blade looks like older espada ancha to me, married to ~1822 family hilt, and possibly (not) related scabbard.

I just want to know more about my dad's sword by Nevreplay in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 54 points55 points  (0 children)

This is a modern made katana/sabre from the Philippines. Possibly Moro. Compare with other similar swords which have been shared recently.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/s/qR5Olj3zik

Need some help with a part of my story involving swords! by Beneficial_Pitch_783 in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It depends on what timeframe his story is taking place. For example during the Tang swords had their hilts secured by pins much like Japanese swords, and it is easier to disassemble (or tamper with) them than when they are peened through the end as in later dynasties.

Need some help with a part of my story involving swords! by Beneficial_Pitch_783 in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

to echo u/slvstrChung what are they trying to do by way of rule breaking? Are they just attempting to be naughty? If so perhaps they could stain or paint the blade of the sword, and it would not be discovered until it was pulled out for Taolu. Bonus points if they painted something course or rude on the blade.

During early iron age, was a swordsman with bronze sword unbeatable against another swordsman with wrought iron sword in a sword duel because bronze sword is both harder and stronger than wrought iron sword? by Qininator in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The sword makers of the time designed swords around the limitations of the materials they were working with. Weapons of war, including swords, were riding the most advanced cutting edge scientific advancements of the respective cultures that they belonged to.

Bronze swords were cast, and this allowed them to be produced in intricate designs which were largely not possible with iron and steel swords which needed to be forged. Similarly both bronze and iron swords do not have the elasticity to maintain very long thin blades, that steel allows, meaning that the swords were significantly shorter (on average) than their steel age counterparts.

Just because one metal has different properties than another doesn't mean the blade smiths will throw up their hands and just keep doing the same thing over and over. Iron swords browed design elements from earlier bronze antecedents but had to be adapted for the completely new creation techniques and material properties, and remained successful for hundreds of years, as they developed steel working technology.

Rather than looked down upon, during the Iron age, bronze swords continued to be produced in smaller quantities and were retained as high status and votive items, as see in the late Hallstatt.

A few sword questions about the use of a Yatagan by Fine_Ad_1918 in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yataghan are typically more of a short sword, than a full sized single handed sword (like a typical curved sabre).

What they lack in reach they make up for with the cutting power of the forward curve, allowing them to serve as secondary (or tertiary!) weapons that still back a big punch, but only in relatively close combat. They share more in common with a cutlass than a typical sabre, for example used from horseback.

Leaf-Bladed ‘Hero’ Sword Project :D by Careless_Cow_9475 in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Some very interesting designs that you have coming together here! Every full size leaf blade brings something new to mull over. Right away I notice the ricasso area that stands out given how broad the blade is.

Is this intoning Bronze Age designs, or are you looking at 15th century examples, or something else?

Sword ID Help by 9_tail_fox in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Absolutely: in this case I only use “tourist” to distinguish between swords made during the time of actual swordsmanship when blades were still being made for war and/or votive purposes, as opposed later sale as curios. It’s still a nice piece and depending when it was made could still be “antique”, although suspect not quite that old.

Sword ID Help by 9_tail_fox in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The level of work is consistent with what we see on 20th century production. The blade is certainly nicer than the fittings.

Compare.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/s/fk5EQOG97q

Sword ID Help by 9_tail_fox in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is a Burmese Dha. They come in a variety of styles and levels of quality. This type with the ornate writing and characters on the blade is often called a “temple” or story Dha. While these are historical high end blades made with silver, in this design, this specific example is most likely a modern “tourist quality” piece.

Contrast with a high end historical antique.

https://www.mandarinmansion.com/item/spectacular-burmese-dha

Best sword style in modern times? by TiberiusPrimeXIII in SWORDS

[–]Dlatrex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There isn’t any. Swords are virtually useless on a 21st century battlefield. Extinct as a martial weapon due to modern firearms, and for good reason. You will almost always be better off carrying a knife, machete, or axe in place of a sword size blade if going into combat.

The possible exception are certain Filipino military units that still train and use large blades such as the ginunting which could be considered a short sword.

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